Nonce found disembowelled at Durham Prison

[BigGully]

The problem I have with TB and yes we crossed swords on this topic some months ago and as now he showed a level of support to the perpetrators whilst making very little effort to condemn these heinous actions.

Its that he shows ambivalence towards the victims, the babies, children and teenagers that are being brutalised whilst trying very hard to understand and wish to evolve some kind of therapies to help these vile criminals all in the name of prevention.

Some feel it is all very worthy, but its wholly flawed view when dealing with monsters with an overwhelming desire to engage in brutal sexual contact with minors no matter how young their victims might be.

How can you have nothing but hatred for them ??

 

[darters74]

I'd hope they put them in jail for life. I would not want them dead though. Death is not a punishment for a life sentence crime, its a way out. I'd hope that somehow they could study or research the individual to find out possible ways to prevent this happening to other kids in the future. Killing someone doesn't allow you that opportunity.

Would I pity them? If they showed great remorse for their actions I might not go so far as pity, but I would not condemn them completely as a human being if it was something they did not have full control over.

It's the same if a Schizophrenic killed my child. Do I condemn the poor sod becuase they were born with a brain thats hard wiring was stuffed from birth?

Nobody asks to be like this. I don't believe people wake up and think i've had enough of shagging 40 year old women, think i'll go shag some kids.

I'm just glad I wasn't born with such a condition because it would be an absolute awful thing to carry with you through life.

I've only read the first line of that - is jail a punishment, no !

 

[terryberry1]

I'd hope they put them in jail for life. I would not want them dead though. Death is not a punishment for a life sentence crime, its a way out. I'd hope that somehow they could study or research the individual to find out possible ways to prevent this happening to other kids in the future. Killing someone doesn't allow you that opportunity.

Would I pity them? If they showed great remorse for their actions I might not go so far as pity, but I would not condemn them completely as a human being if it was something they did not have full control over.

It's the same if a Schizophrenic killed my child. Do I condemn the poor sod becuase they were born with a brain thats hard wiring was stuffed from birth?

Nobody asks to be like this. I don't believe people wake up and think i've had enough of shagging 40 year old women, think i'll go shag some kids.

I'm just glad I wasn't born with such a condition because it would be an absolute awful thing to carry with you through life.

You are entitle to that view, but i think you are in a minority.

 

[Acker79]

Can people stop saying 'TB'. In a debate that has Tyrone Biggums on one side and TerryBerry on the other, it's very confusing.

 

[El Presidente]

I've only read the first line of that - is jail a punishment, no !

Darters in free Rose West campaign.

 

[terryberry1]

I've only read the first line of that - is jail a punishment, no !

Well fed, warm room, bed for the night, tv, ps3....... Jail is a great punishment

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I've only read the first line of that - is jail a punishment, no !

I'd be more concerned with looking after my kid in the aftermarth of the event than worrying about revenge.

I mean really, what use is a parent to a child when the parents in jail for 10 years for killing someone.

 

[terryberry1]

Can people stop saying 'TB'. In a debate that has Tyrone Biggums on one side and TerryBerry on the other, it's very confusing.

Was thinking the same thing

 

[El Presidente]

The problem I have with TB and yes we crossed swords on this topic some months ago and as now he showed a level of support to the perpetrators whilst making very little effort to condemn these heinous actions.

Its that he shows ambivalence towards the victims, the babies, children and teenagers that are being brutalised whilst trying very hard to understand and wish to evolve some kind of therapies to help these vile criminals all in the name of prevention.

Some feel it is all very worthy, but its wholly flawed view when dealing with monsters with an overwhelming desire to engage in brutal sexual contact with minors no matter how young their victims might be.

How can you have nothing but hatred for them ??

Can you show me where Tyrone is showing them support? I read his post as saying they should be jailed, how is that supporting them?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Well fed, warm room, bed for the night, tv, ps3....... Jail is a great punishment

Erhm, is that the same jail where someone just got disemboweled?

 

[El Presidente]

Well fed, warm room, bed for the night, tv, ps3....... Jail is a great punishment

Why don't you go there then Terry? We won't miss you.

 

[terryberry1]

Why don't you go there then Terry? We won't miss you.

Always find you amusing

 

[terryberry1]

Erhm, is that the same jail where someone just got disemboweled?

True, Jail is not so bad afterall

 

[terryberry1]

Erhm, is that the same jail where someone just got disemboweled?

If it was garunteed that the same thing would happen to all nonces, then throwing them in Jail is the way forward

 

[BigGully]

Can you show me where Tyrone is showing them support? I read his post as saying they should be jailed, how is that supporting them?

I said a level of support and the following quotes were from him on his first few posts, I could go on.

When discussing paedophilia and there disgusting crimes the following quotes show to me a level of support no doubt,
It's a mental disorder.

Make no mistake, the guy who murdered this chap is a far, far worse human being and danger to society.

So what makes you a world expert on this subject to declare it is no illness?

You make it sound like the decision to molest children is a simple one. That it's something that they think nothing of and go along merrily in life with no guilt in conscience of their act.

 

[Acker79]

I said a level of support and the following quotes were from him on his first few posts, I could go on.

When discussing paedophilia and there disgusting crimes the following quotes show to me a level of support no doubt,
It's a mental disorder.

Make no mistake, the guy who murdered this chap is a far, far worse human being and danger to society.

So what makes you a world expert on this subject to declare it is no illness?

You make it sound like the decision to molest children is a simple one. That it's something that they think nothing of and go along merrily in life with no guilt in conscience of their act.

How does any of that show support? x is worse than y does mot mean y has my sympathy. "You are not an expert in this topic of debate" is not sympathy.

 

[El Presidente]

I said a level of support and the following quotes were from him on his first few posts, I could go on.

When discussing paedophilia and there disgusting crimes the following quotes show to me a level of support no doubt,
It's a mental disorder.

Make no mistake, the guy who murdered this chap is a far, far worse human being and danger to society.

So in your world saying that someone is a danger to society makes them a supporter of paedophiles, I don't get it.

 

[BigGully]

So in your world saying that someone is a danger to society makes them a supporter of paedophiles, I don't get it.

I really didnt expect you to get it. you rarely do.

Again I mentioned ' a level of support'.

You might want to re-read his posts on this matter and see his general lack of empathy with the victims compared to his effort to offer excuse, reason and support to those that harm our children.

The sentence you highlited, shows again how TB felt the guy who murdered the paedophile is a far, far worse human being than the guy who raped his 13 year old victim.

A warped view.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

The sentence you highlited, shows again how TB felt the guy who murdered the paedophile is a far, far worse human being than the guy who raped his 13 year old victim.
A warped view.

Warped?

The guy murdered two old people and disemboweld another human being. Disemboweling another human being while they are alive is right off the scales in the warped department.

 

[Acker79]

I really didnt expect you to get it. you rarely do.

Again I mentioned ' a level of support'.

You might want to re-read his posts on this matter and see his general lack of empathy with the victims compared to his effort to offer excuse, reason and support to those that harm our children.

The sentence you highlited, shows again how TB felt the guy who murdered the paedophile is a far, far worse human being than the guy who raped his 13 year old victim.

A warped view.

Do you have sympathy for a man who breaks into the house of a bed-bound pensioner, and batters her to death (with suggestions of sexual motivation)?