Nice new BNP branch in Brighton...

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

Probably the Bat and Ball.

Well it's hardly the reenactment of the March on Rome is it? Thirty silly students and old lefties stop thirty BNP supporters meeting in a back street pub, while the other 249,940 people in Brighton and Hove were busy doing other things.

 

[simmo]

Maybe I didn't make it clear on my original post. I concur that Labours policies have a hand in the current situation, it was more a comment on the position we are presently in, not an apportioning of blame.

Oh, righto, so those race riots that occured in 2001 weren't the baby eating parties fault then. Thats cleared up then.

I think you have left of one teensy weensy thing concerning our position and problems we as a country face, someone has to get us out of the dire financial situation we are in after the previous governement that took over in 1997 left office in May 2010.

 

[daveinprague]

The common tactic of these so called "anti-fascists" is to put pressure on the landlord of the premises using all manner of threats and abuse and then as they did here, mobilise a thirty strong mob to as I said if necessary physically prevent the meeting take place.

"Tonight in Brighton, 30 people turned up outside the Branch Tavern Pub in London Road to protest, forcing the BNP to scuttle off elsewhere". Quote.

Apparently the fascists moved off elsewhere although where the BNP supporters went is not clear.

and I repeat.
How were they physically prevented?
Nobody prevented the meeting.
There was a protest..ok...how is that preventing their meeting?

 

[Nibble]

Oh, righto, so those race riots that occured in 2001 weren't the baby eating parties fault then. Thats cleared up then.

I think you have left of one teensy weensy thing concerning our position and problems we as a country face, someone has to get us out of the dire financial situation we are in after the previous governement that took over in 1997 left office in May 2010.

I think we may be arguing the same point here. I was drawing similarities to the 80's not blaming one party or another.

 

[The Wookiee]

Is the Branch Tavern the one with tables and chairs outside the back? If so I was sat outside there in the summer, must of seen at least 5 drug deals taking place and people selling bottles of methadone, horrible part of town.

 

[glasfryn]

Oh, righto, so those race riots that occured in 2001 weren't the baby eating parties fault then. Thats cleared up then.

I think you have left of one teensy weensy thing concerning our position and problems we as a country face, someone has to get us out of the dire financial situation we are in after the previous governement that took over in 1997 left office in May 2010.

surely you mean "the previous government" AND THE BANKS

 

[daveinprague]

Fascists typically use fear and intimidation as a political tactic.
Protest one of their meetings, and people suddenly get all
sensitive and precious about it. Give me a break.

 

[simmo]

I think we may be arguing the same point here. I was drawing similarities to the 80's not blaming one party or another.

and worst of all a bloody conservative govmt. It's like Thatcher never went away.

That quote does not suggest this. It seemed like a political point to me and seemed to be correlating a rise of the BNP with the fact that we now have a Tory govt.

Two points

1) maybe it is isn't the worst thing to have a Con (+Lib) government, seeing what a wretched state the previous government left our country in and 2) for goodness sake get over Thatcher she went 20 flipping years ago, Cameron is in charge now a different person with different ideas. Move on, you don't ever hear right wingers banging on about Wilson or Callaghan causing all the problems of this country do you.

 

[simmo]

surely you mean "the previous government" AND THE BANKS

Who is in charge of regulating the banks?

Whom does the buck stop with?

Whom allowed banks to offer 125% mortgages for example?

 

[Nibble]

and worst of all a bloody conservative govmt. It's like Thatcher never went away.

That quote does not suggest this. It seemed like a political point to me and seemed to be correlating a rise of the BNP with the fact that we now have a Tory govt.

Two points

1) maybe it is isn't the worst thing to have a Con (+Lib) government, seeing what a wretched state the previous government left our country in and 2) for goodness sake get over Thatcher she went 20 flipping years ago, Cameron is in charge now a different person with different ideas. Move on, you don't ever hear right wingers banging on about Wilson or Callaghan causing all the problems of this country do you.

well, however badly I made my point that was my intention.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I thought it was a fascist tactic to physically prevent meetings of legally registered political parties?

How old are you? Left school yet?

 

[e77]

Part of the blame lies with both on the main parties moving to the middle ground. Labour are perceived to have left their working class roots (apparently a lot of disaffected people go straight from Labour to the BNP without going through the Lib Dems and/or Conservatives) and the Conservatives don't have any right wing big beasts like Tebitt for right minded people to rally round.

While I certainly don't agree with joining the BNP, one can perhaps understand the reasoning for some.

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

Fascists typically use fear and intimidation as a political tactic.
Protest one of their meetings, and people suddenly get all
sensitive and precious about it. Give me a break.

I know the far left are fascistic thugs of the worst kind, but I think they should still be allowed to demonstrate, they just shouldn't be allowed to interfere in the democratic process.

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

How old are you? Left school yet?

I left Brighton College in 1973 sonny.

 

[daveinprague]

I know the far left are fascistic thugs of the worst kind, but I think they should still be allowed to demonstrate, they just shouldn't be allowed to interefre in the democratic process.

Nobody interfered with any BNP meeting.
There was a protest outside...big fecking deal....

Which far left fascistic thugs are you referring to exactly, or are you just
being theatrical?

 

[xenophon]

i was in berlin the other week and had an apartment in the nice and leafy prenzlauerberg district.

i noticed however that at a jewsih school on the main street they had to have 24 hour police protection.

always thought berlin to be a very tolerant city but they must have much bigger issues than us!

I was stationed in Berlin a month after the wall came down, it was full of headbangers due to the fact West Berlin escaped the national service that the rest of W Germany had as compulsory; hence all the right and left wing oddballs moving there to avoid the draft.

Full of nazi skins rucking with Turks as I remember, many of the skins newly released from the now non-existent East Germany. Hertha Berlin had an influx of about 10,000 new Eastern fans, a large proportion of which were neo-nazis.

Roughest city I've ever been in, and I've hung out in some rough 'uns in my time. I had to endure the 1990 World Cup there, we were confined to barracks as the Germans (mostly seig heiling skins) turned up outside our camp after the semi-final defeat, waving flags and offering us all out from the tops of their cars. Two scousers scaled a wall round the back armed with a bass broom and got nicked for attacking a bar full of boxheads with it.

Marvellous scenes

 

[daveinprague]

The Jewish quarter here is guarded since a thwarted attempt 4 years ago by Al Qaeda to blow up the oldest synagogue in Europe (nazis didnt destroy it as they wanted it as a museum) here in Prague simultaneously as an attack on a Synagogue in Amsterdam.

It was supposed to have occurred on my first weekend here in Prague...didnt find out the details about it until 5 or 6 months later when talking to some woman from the American Embassy...

Freaked me out my first time in Wenceslas Square seeing very heavily armed police wearing balaclavas and cradling the sort of machine gun that you have to lay down with to fire. Wondered if id made a big mistake moving here haha.

 

[Nibble]

I was stationed in Berlin a month after the wall came down, it was full of headbangers due to the fact West Berlin escaped the national service that the rest of W Germany had as compulsory; hence all the right and left wing oddballs moving there to avoid the draft.

Full of nazi skins rucking with Turks as I remember, many of the skins newly released from the now non-existent East Germany. Hertha Berlin had an influx of about 10,000 new Eastern fans, a large proportion of which were neo-nazis.

Roughest city I've ever been in, and I've hung out in some rough 'uns in my time. I had to endure the 1990 World Cup there, we were confined to barracks as the Germans (mostly seig heiling skins) turned up outside our camp after the semi-final defeat, waving flags and offering us all out from the tops of their cars. Two scousers scaled a wall round the back armed with a bass broom and got nicked for attacking a bar full of boxheads with it.

Marvellous scenes

I imagine you have seen a diffarant side to Belin given your job there but in my experience it is one of my favourite cities I have visited. Obviously it has changed a lot since you were posted there. Have you been back since, if not I think you would be pleasently surprised at the change.

 

[Gwylan]

I imagine you have seen a diffarant side to Belin given your job there but in my experience it is one of my favourite cities I have visited. Obviously it has changed a lot since you were posted there. Have you been back since, if not I think you would be pleasently surprised at the change.

Actually I'd say it's the reverse. I've been going to Berlin regularly since the 80s and have noticed that the far-right skinheads seem to be growing in number. Don't get me wrong, I love the place, but it does have more than its far share of meatheads.

I'll be there on Tuesday so will check out for myself.

 

[Ramon Francisco Rocha]

What is this branch? I guess B - BRIGHTON N - ? P - ?

How much is this to join? :albion1: