Which pubs are empty? And have many closed down? I tend to frequent mainly city centre pubs and most of these seem as busy as usual. Maybe the further you go out of town it becomes different?
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Which pubs are empty? And have many closed down? I tend to frequent mainly city centre pubs and most of these seem as busy as usual. Maybe the further you go out of town it becomes different?
Yes, banning smoking in public indoor places in the UK is why all the world's major economies went into recession in 2008. OK.
Maybe the pub clears when the look-out notices you're on your way?
The Spanish
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please tell me you are joking
The Spanish
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at lunchtime by the looks of it today.
I normally have a coffee at lunch time. Treacle is my new favourite cafe.
Lord Bracknell
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The delightful town of St Just (in Penwith) used to have five excellent pubs, all clustered around a small square. It now has four. The one that has closed is the one that hasn't been able to construct a permanently sheltered smoking area.
Cornwall Council do seem to have a very liberal interpretation of what a legal smoking area can look like and this seems to be supported by the locals. The smoking area of the Commercial Hotel in St Just got an award this year in the St Just in Bloom competition. When you're in it, it feels like you are totally enclosed - but the 'walls' turn out to be flower and hedge arrangements.
The delightful town of St Just (in Penwith) used to have five excellent pubs, all clustered around a small square. It now has four. The one that has closed is the one that hasn't been able to construct a permanently sheltered smoking area.
Cornwall Council do seem to have a very liberal interpretation of what a legal smoking area can look like and this seems to be supported by the locals. The smoking area of the Commercial Hotel in St Just got an award this year in the St Just in Bloom competition. When you're in it, it feels like you are totally enclosed - but the 'walls' turn out to be flower and hedge arrangements.
The lesson is ? Wait till it gets cold and then the 'real-ale bores will have some company. That arrangement you detail is fine in summer.
StanmoreSeagull
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great idea! smoking is disgusting!
Kick Ass Minton
Brooklynite
I Love this town....
Finch
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I find these sort of people the most obnoxious, they really can ruin places for so many people and they simply don't care. Move where? Another bar because you arrived and everyone should bow to your presence and disperse? Smokers up themselves attitudes are staggering sometimes.
Just as offensive to a non smoker, smoke is an extremely pungent smell.
daveinprague
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I bet you drive car though eh? I dont. Inconsiderate drivers stinking my clothes up in the city, and offering a greater opportunity of taking somebodies life than I will ever be able to achieve smoking cigarettes or joints.
and B)
We are discussing smoking in the open air you doughnut. If it offends you to move
10 yards away from somebody in the open air, then youre the sort of person that I find
obnoxious. Talk about up yourself.
and B)
We are discussing smoking in the open air you doughnut. If it offends you to move
10 yards away from somebody in the open air, then youre the sort of person that I find
obnoxious. Talk about up yourself.
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Finch
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No I don't drive a car. If moving 10 yards solved the problem it wouldn't be an issue would it, but the smell is so strong and discusting it often doesn't, and some small cafes only have say 2-3 tables outside.
daveinprague
New member
So avoid them, and find somewhere with a larger section outside?
Im being flippant obviously.
I find a lot of strong colognes horrible. Ive had to sit and breathe in
nasal searing chemical tinted odours when eating that certainly didnt add to
the flavour of my meal.
Obviously we will never agree, but I think a blanket ban is ridiculous.
Theres no reason why there are not smoking and non smoking establishments, the same as most places ive seen in mainland europe.
Finch
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I do agree with you on the overall thread that a blanket ban is over the top.
Smokers and non smokers can co-exist if people are just reasonable. I just don't like people who sit in small bars / cafes, particularly upwind, blowing smoke over everyone else and then being quite rude if anyone points it out.
Anyway I'm off to the farmers market before it gets too busy, I didn't mean to come off brash.
Smokers and non smokers can co-exist if people are just reasonable. I just don't like people who sit in small bars / cafes, particularly upwind, blowing smoke over everyone else and then being quite rude if anyone points it out.
Anyway I'm off to the farmers market before it gets too busy, I didn't mean to come off brash.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
The Blue Anchor have installed two rows of overhead electric heating the full length of the marquee.
Icy Gull
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Does anyone really believes that a whiff of a cigarette in a park or street in New York or any major city is actually more harmful to their health than actually breathing in New York or London? Anyone supporting this bollocks needs to realise that they are being f***ing precious as well as holier than thou.
I would suspect that the very cheap booze in supermarkets has more to do with the decline of the pub than the smoking ban.
The Spanish
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i would suspect that there are a number of factors in reality. having a pop at a law you think excessive and precious by using sweeping statements does not necessarily mean that is the sum total of your assessment of the issue. certain factors have more to do with the decline of some pubs than others. some come together in a perfect storm of pub fuckuperry. i would also suspect that if you you said the sky is blue on here someone would say something else.
i suspect if you asked a pub landlord on his arse if the smoking ban had affected their trade they are unlikely to answer "well i suspect it is more to do with cheap booze in supermarkets."
BensGrandad
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I think smoking should be banned in all public places tbh. During the summer, sitting outside pubs, to have people's fag smoke wafting over me was intrusive. The argument it should be allowed outside pubs is basically flawed if there is a sitting area
My view also as it is virtually impossible to sit outside pof apub or coffee shop without being surrounded by smokers and the smell. It is even worse if standing at a bus stop.
If somebody wishes to smoke at home or in their own car so be it as we non smokers have the choice not to go to their home or in their car but we have no choice at pubs etc if we also want to sit outside or is this right confined to smokers only.