Most Disgusting Human in UK?

[User removed 4]

A lot of women don't report being raped to the police because of the trauma they go through.

i know what you're saying and i have the utmost sympathy with rape victims, but getting your minge out for all and sundry in magazines and starring in home porn videos is hardly the actions of a traumatised rape victim.plus as a father who doesnt live with his kids (luckily their mum is good and we have a workable agreement in relation to them)i realy felt for peter andre when i saw the deliberately provocative news footage of his very young children playing in the park with the new bloke, i'm sure most fathers on here will agree how painful that would be.

 

[bhaexpress]

Hate to say it but given her rather chequered past her credibility would be doubted by many. That doesn't mean to say she wasn't raped though. As had been said before a very large number of rapes go unreported.

 

[Bwian]

i was involved wit hone of her cousins [you know who you are ]
eneded u probboing me of 2 house new car etc etc
and went to lying root to try and win those
i klnow the family and they are al lthe same
a bunch of liars who wil lstop at nothing to get money
im sure there are others on here who know what i mean

Please, you must speak to me English-it's good for me to learn.

 

[User removed 4]

Considering men don't report being victims of domestic violence. I can't see many rushing to the police station to report being buggered

Lets be honest, and i'm afraid i can put this no other way, you've got to be a bit of a wanker to get beaten up by your wife.

 

[Acker79]

If you're talking about process of law, that is the case. Until convicted, that person is presumed innocent.

Not sure what the point you're making is.

A more general point about accusations of rape.

Yes, the innocent until proven guilty is extended, by law, to the man accused of rape. But by doing that isn't the law assuming the woman is guilty of lying, wasting police time, and slander? And doesn't that then go against the idea of innocent until proven guilty for her?


In the context of this binfest:

By assuming Jordan is telling the truth, you are assuming the man is guilty before proven innocent.

By assuming the man is innocent until proven guilty (as the law does), you are assuming Jordan is guilty of lying etc.

Either way, you ignore the idea of "innocent until proven guilty" for someone.

Should we really be criticising someone who assume Jordan is lying, since that is going with the law (i.e. that the man is innocent until proven guilty)?

 

[wellquickwoody]

LOL

Nope, didn't get a word of that.

Very good point!

But Macky obviously has had dealings with the Price clan so can make a 'somewhat' relevant comment. His experience has left him with an opinion which mirrors my own feelings after my own contacts with the 'Jordan Mafia'.

 

[The Spanish]

i know what you're saying and i have the utmost sympathy with rape victims, but getting your minge out for all and sundry in magazines and starring in home porn videos is hardly the actions of a traumatised rape victim

thing is mate there might be something in it though. I am sure it could be argued that having unhealthy sexual experiences at a young age, or having a f***ed up attitude to men and sexuality (which is nailed on in her case, at the very least) could have led her to this point.

Even this day and age most people would feel her behaviour is extreme, even though society 'accepts' it. There is a short circuit somewhere along the line.

 

[coventrygull]

Lets be honest, and i'm afraid i can put this no other way, you've got to be a bit of a wanker to get beaten up by your wife.

What about a woman being beaten by her husband. As well as the violence people are undermined psychologically

 

[Bwian]

Oh dear.

What purpose is there in making a complaint or allegation now? What evidence would there be? She’s just saying it happened

So why mention it now after all these years? Maybe she doesn't like Andre being the media darling instead of her these days? I don't know her (thank goodness) so I only have what's in the media to form an opinion. Personally I question her timing and motives here. Horrible woman.

 

[User removed 4]

What about a woman being beaten by her husband. As well as the violence people are undermined psychologically

of course a women victims of domestic violence is very sad , but you posted about MEN being victims.

 

[coventrygull]

thing is mate there might be something in it though. I am sure it could be argued that having unhealthy sexual experiences at a young age, or having a f***ed up attitude to men and sexuality (which is nailed on in her case, at the very least) could have led her to this point.

Even this day and age most people would feel her behaviour is extreme, even though society 'accepts' it. There is a short circuit somewhere along the line.

Well said Spanish

 

[Acker79]

but getting your minge out for all and sundry in magazines and starring in home porn videos is hardly the actions of a traumatised rape victim.

Really depends. How often do we hear that porn stars aren't really doing their jopb because they love sex, it's because they have deep rooted psychological issues around sex.

For some people rape makes them afraid of contact, afraid of opening up and exposing themselves in a most vulnerable way.

For others it makes them feel worthless, that the only point of their existence is the sexual gratification of men.

For some the only attention they've ever received was at the hands of their abuser, so they confuse sex with respect. They give it away because they think that when a man sleeps with them, it is attention.

Some see sleeping around gives them back the control they lost when attacked, that exposing themselves in magazines is a form of control, the viewer can see, but they can't touch, etc.

Humans are complex beasts, and their reaction to trauma does vary widely.

 

[User removed 4]

Really depends. How often do we hear that porn stars aren't really doing their jopb because they love sex, it's because they have deep rooted psychological issues around sex.

For some people rape makes them afraid of contact, afraid of opening up and exposing themselves in a most vulnerable way.

For others it makes them feel worthless, that the only point of their existence is the sexual gratification of men.

For some the only attention they've ever received was at the hands of their abiser, so they confuse sex with respect. They give it away because they think that when a man sleeps with them, it is attention.

Some see sleeping around gives them back the control they lost when attacked, that exposing themselves in magazines is a form of control, the viewer can see, but they can't touch, etc.

Humans are complex beasts, and their reaction to trauma does vary widely.

ok, fair one.

 

[The Large One]

A more general point about accusations of rape.

Yes, the innocent until proven guilty is extended, by law, to the man accused of rape. But by doing that isn't the law assuming the woman is guilty of lying, wasting police time, and slander? And doesn't that then go against the idea of innocent until proven guilty for her?


In the context of this binfest:

By assuming Jordan is telling the truth, you are assuming the man is guilty before proven innocent.

By assuming the man is innocent until proven guilty (as the law does), you are assuming Jordan is guilty of lying etc.

Either way, you ignore the idea of "innocent until proven guilty" for someone.

Should we really be criticising someone who assume Jordan is lying, since that is going with the law (i.e. that the man is innocent until proven guilty)?

Hang on, she hasn't made an accusation against any given person.

You're getting 15 steps ahead here.

If she - or anyone - had made an accusation against a given person, then a process of law has to be followed, including the concept the accused being considered 'innocent until proven guilty'. Even then, if the case had returned a 'not guilty' verdict, it doesn't follow that the accuser was necessarily lying.

If this was something that had happened say, 10 years ago, or even a year ago, I would guess (though someone with a better scientific background, or a copper on here would hopefully put me right here) that there would be little chance of conviction on the back of there being very little evidence, except one person's word against another.

 

[The Large One]

So why mention it now after all these years? Maybe she doesn't like Andre being the media darling instead of her these days? I don't know her (thank goodness) so I only have what's in the media to form an opinion. Personally I question her timing and motives here. Horrible woman.

Fully agree, as I said earlier.

But that is not to say it didn't happen.

Who knows?

 

[Acker79]

Hang on, she hasn't made an accusation against any given person.

You're getting 15 steps ahead here.

If she - or anyone - had made an accusation against a given person, then a process of law has to be followed, including the concept the accused being considered 'innocent until proven guilty'. Even then, if the case had returned a 'not guilty' verdict, it doesn't follow that the accuser was necessarily lying.

If this was something that had happened say, 10 years ago, or even a year ago, I would guess (though someone with a better scientific background, or a copper on here would hopefully put me right here) that there would be little chance of conviction on the back of there being very little evidence, except one person's word against another.

We don't know who she claims raped her, but by assuming she's telling the truth, you* are assuming that she was raped, and thus assuming (when the identity of the man is revealed) that he is guilty. You can't believe her now, then when/if she makes a claim against someone stop believing her, can you?

I know the idea that someone can be guilty, and get away with the crime so in the eyes of the law be found 'not guilty', but the eyes of the law see only guilty or not guilt, there is no "well, he's guilty, but we can't prove it so he's 'not guilty'... for now" You are "guilty", or you are "not guilty".

But if in the eyes of the law the man is "not guilty", how can the accuser not be seen, in the eyes of the law, as guilty of lying?



As for the evidence, it depends on the victim's behaviour. If she doesn't wash or change her clothes the evidence stays around longer. However, a typical reaction is to wash, thoroughly, and thus get rid of evidence. (Not just semen, but signs of force, hair etc).

(side note, women (or men) if you're ever raped you have a better chance of catching the rapist, proving his guilt the sooner you report it. Don't hesitate, don't be ashamed, don't feel judged. Report it)



(*general 'you', not specifically you, TLO)

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

The Price Vehicle has had the Wheels well and truely come off. They way she has behaved during and after the split with long suffering Andre has been very badly handled by her and anyone advising her, her agent, management team, family and friends. She could not have handled it worse if she tried.

My best guess is she has realised she f***ed up losing andre who on the face of all the evidence to hand since he met her and the 6 years inbetween has acted with utmost integrity and loving and has taken on her disabled son as his own and appears to be a doting father and all round bloody decent bloke.

She in the cold light of day thought andre would always be around for her to put down and humiliate but one day andre said " I have had enough of this shit " and headed for the door.

She is trashing around with her life in a bad place and although she would never admit it has lost a diamond bloke in andre the likes of which she will never get again so she is lashing out and slagging him off ( like she did all along ). She has gone out and found a defenceless knucklehead in a classic rebound situation that will end in tears.

However to call her the worst human in the UK is somewhat over the top and who knows about the rape allegations, it could well be true.

Thats my take on it anyway.

 

[Mendoza]

This thread reminds me of that thread a while back claiming that women that get raped, deserve it.

It has similar binfestability points and as its nearly lunch time, the pringles may well make an outing....

 

[beorhthelm]

She's very media savvy and knows exactly how to play them... I don't know how/why this claim has come out, but to suggest that she's lying about being raped or just using it to 'boost' her profile is quite frankly a f***ing disgrace.

about the savvy, im not so sure. i noticed in the recent Tellybox programme with Pete, that both their managers were with him now, meanwhile post split she bailed off on holiday, drinking it up and mucking about like a 20 year old. Like others i held some respect for her (Katie), she gone about her life and business with intent and made a success, but seems the old Jordon has come back.

as for the rape claims, my missus tells me its not even news, claims have been made before. unless she is prosecuting, i find them a little disingenuous.

 

[User removed 4]

The Price Vehicle has had the Wheels well and truely come off. They way she has behaved during and after the split with long suffering Andre has been very badly handled by her and anyone advising her, her agent, management team, family and friends. She could not have handled it worse if she tried.

My best guess is she has realised she f***ed up losing andre who on the face of all the evidence to hand since he met her and the 6 years inbetween has acted with utmost integrity and loving and has taken on her disabled son as his own and appears to be a doting father and all round bloody decent bloke.

She in the cold light of day thought andre would always be around for her to put down and humiliate but one day andre said " I have had enough of this shit " and headed for the door.

She is trashing around with her life in a bad place and although she would never admit it has lost a diamond bloke in andre the likes of which she will never get again so she is lashing out and slagging him off ( like she did all along ). She has gone out and found a defenceless knucklehead in a classic rebound situation that will end in tears.

However to call her the worst human in the UK is somewhat over the top and who knows about the rape allegations, it could well be true.

Thats my take on it anyway.

i agree, she must be INSANIAAAAA !