[News] Middle East conflict

[Guinness Boy]

Probably one of his next pledges.
The bloke is full of shit
Let's keep this going #StarmerOut

The irony being you’d get a far right coalition instead who only listened to itself. Much like the Israeli government.

 

[Chicken Run]

Either I’ve been whooshed or you’re on the wrong thread.

Back to a war where civilians are being murdered because terrorists raped and murdered pensioners and children maybe?

Shit i’m sorry i thought i was on the Weather for dog walking thread

 

[A1X]

Golan is simply occupied as a spoil of war, you know, when Syria attempted to invade Israel, then Israel fought back and now maintain Golan as a buffer zone.

Yes, in much the same way as the Germans occupied Alsace and Lorraine after the war of 1871, a move which eventually led to the grievances which caused the Great War.

 

[de la zouch]

Nah there’s been loads of Poll’s over the years asking the question

Very very funny

 

[armchairclubber]

The irony being you’d get a far right coalition instead who only listened to itself. Much like the Israeli government.

We've got a far right coalition (Labour) with an authoritarian Leadership who are puppets at the very least (more totally embroiled in through historical colonialism) and supportive of a Genocidal maniac. Farage wouldn't be so far away.

Still, I'm sure Starmer and Lammy have had a nice dinner with Trump.

It depends on perspective.

 

[SeagullinExile]

That’s actually a pretty sensible statement given the tension in the region. I doubt they’ll stop their own war in Yemen though. And for a truly unified Arab / Muslim front Iran and Iraq will have to have a cuddle and Syria will need to unite.

Actual physical resistance to Israel is still likely to only come from terrorist organisations rather than national armies. That’s why Iran didn’t want to escalate and it’s what Netanyahu has gambled on.

I think it may be more for domestic consumption? The general population of other Arab countries are as outraged as the rest of us. Israel has to be very cautious. My opinion obviously.

 

[heathgate]

If Israel want peace, why do they occupy the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Golan Heights? Who do they think they are, Russia?

Certainly a question mark over the ongoing status of the West Bank, but Gaza has not been "occupied" since 2005, and the Golan Heights is a spoil of war when Syria and others attempted to invade and destroy Israel, Israel maintains it as a buffer zone to ensure Syria, and others, cannot easily get access to murder more Israeli citizens.

 

[de la zouch]

I think it may be more for domestic consumption? The general population of other Arab countries are as outraged as the rest of us. Israel has to be very cautious. My opinion obviously.

You’ve obviously not seen the numerous images and videos of Syrians & Iranians celebrating Israel’s victories. I’d share but it would cause outrage amongst the gang

 

[armchairclubber]

You’ve obviously not seen the numerous images and videos of Syrians & Iranians celebrating Israel’s victories. I’d share but it would cause outrage amongst the gang

Welcome to imo, all for this thread being updated with news, thoughts and perceptions globally if relevant.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Welcome to imo, all for this thread being updated with news, thoughts and perceptions globally if relevant.

Yep and they can be as mental as you like, without any basis in fact.

For example, it seems fine to suggest the UK Government, elected in a democratic landslide, are actually an authoritarian, fascist coalition

 

[armchairclubber]

Yep and they can be as mental as you like, without any basis in fact.

For example, it seems fine to suggest the UK Government, elected in a democratic landslide, are actually an authoritarian, fascist coalition

Your words, not mine

 

[Triggaaar]

Gaza has not been "occupied" since 2005

It's still considered to be occupied under international law.

and the Golan Heights is a spoil of war

Spoil of war? What is this, the middle ages?

Israel maintains it as a buffer zone to ensure Syria, and others, cannot easily get access to murder more Israeli citizens.

It's not a buffer zone, Israel use the land as their own.

Israel's inability to see things from the another point of view may well be their downfall.

 

[de la zouch]

Welcome to imo, all for this thread being updated with news, thoughts and perceptions globally if relevant.

 

[de la zouch]

It's still considered to be occupied under international law.




Spoil of war? What is this, the middle ages?




It's not a buffer zone, Israel use the land as their own.

Israel's inability to see things from the another point of view may well be their downfall.

The irony in that last sentence is epic

 

[Triggaaar]

Lowest civilian to combatant death rate of any modern war

How many civilian deaths have their been, and how many terrorist deaths have their been?

Can you answer this @de la zouch ?

 

[armchairclubber]

Thanks for sharing

 

[Chicken Run]

Your words, not mine

Massive landslide yet 66% of the circa 60% Who could vote and bothered to vote didn’t want them anywhere near No10

 

[armchairclubber]

Massive landslide yet 66% of the circa 60% Who could vote and bothered to vote didn’t want them anywhere near No10

As before, each to their own perspective

 

[de la zouch]

Can you answer this @de la zouch ?

Let’s face it none of the numbers are reliable, some oft quoted are pure make believe. However there is numerous commentary on the ratios. Ultimately the answer is too many as no one wants war

 

[heathgate]

Spoil of war? What is this, the middle ages?

In large swathes of the ME, Islam certainly keeps cultural progression supressed somewhat.... people living as aligned to a dogma born out of a mythical person of dubious reputation within medieval parameters for life.