[News] Middle East conflict

[de la zouch]

Doesn't Israel basically class any fighting age male as an enemy combatant? IDF units under order to kill according to that definition led to them murdering fleeing Israeli hostages waving white flags.

Oooft - nothing like the laughing Palestinians, have you watched the Nova documentary (you probably think it’s faked)

 

[pocketseagull]

I have no idea how that relates to what I posted?

 

[de la zouch]

We. We. We? Are you British or Israeli, is your faith more important than your nationality? Just for the record, so we know where you are coming from.

Also who’s the “we” you refer to? Again sounds familiar

 

[aftershavedave]

Also who’s the “we” you refer to? Again sounds familiar

No, he's asking you if you are an Israeli. Simple question although I suspect that you have dual nationality

 

[nicko31]

Another day, another country, Yemen now.

 

[de la zouch]

No, he's asking you if you are an Israeli. Simple question although I suspect that you have dual nationality

If he’s asking he would say “ so I know”
I think it’s a NSC 1st being asked where someone is from. Do you think it’s a nice question?

 

[jonny.rainbow]

OK Jonny, you need a history lesson

Okay. I see you’re not interested in discussion. Just hurling insults.

Happy trolling.

 

[Zeberdi]

If there is apartheid in Gaza, then that is down to Hamas, the democratically elected government body... Israel has had no political say in Gaza since 2005.

Nor have any civilians in Gaza.

 

[SeagullinExile]

An over simplification given the Saudis hate Iran and are already fighting the Houthis.

I’m not talking about Saudis. The Houthis have been kicking their arses for years. Iran has heavily armed militias in countries all around the region. There’s a real threat that these factions could launch a massive coordinated missile attack on Israel, iron dome will not be able to cope with thousands of rockets and missiles being launched from all directions simultaneously. Iran should not be underestimated.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I’m not talking about Saudis. The Houthis have been kicking their arses for years. Iran has heavily armed militias in countries all around the region. There’s a real threat that these factions could launch a massive coordinated missile attack on Israel, iron dome will not be able to cope with thousands of rockets and missiles being launched from all directions simultaneously. Iran should not be underestimated.

You said Arab/Muslim world. Don’t the Saudis count?

 

[de la zouch]

Okay. I see you’re not interested in discussion. Just hurling insults.

Happy trolling.

I’m very happy to have a discussion, for those that keep referring to 1948, think again. You can go back to the Iron Age.

 

[AstroSloth]

 

[heathgate]

Nor have any civilians in Gaza.

They voted them in, knowing full well what their manifesto highlights meant to the general populus of the Strip....

 

[A1X]

OK Jonny, you need a history lesson

Hi, historian here, so I certainly don’t. Therefore, I will ask the questions you avoided answering.

Do Palestinians have a right to exist? Do they have a right to a homeland not illegally occupied?

Note that the “illegal occupation” in this sense refers not to the state of Israel as a whole but to the illegally annexed territories by settlers on the West Bank. If you’d like me to include the Golan Heights (even though this is obviously not Palestinian territory) too then do let me know.

 

[SeagullinExile]

You said Arab/Muslim world. Don’t the Saudis count?

Stop being a twat. You know exactly what I meant.

 

[A1X]

It almost seems like Bibby has had the results of tests and has started on his bucket list.

I suspect it’s less test results and more legal advice. He, like a certain other right wing wannabe dictator I will neither name nor buy a watch from, will do anything to stay out of prison. Literally anything.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Stop being a twat. You know exactly what I meant.

You’re over simplifying it as many do when it comes to the Middle East.

Far too many bring it down to Jews (inevitably bad) v Muslims (inevitably victims) without mentioning that Shia and Sunni would happily rip each other to bits.

 

[heathgate]

I’m not talking about Saudis. The Houthis have been kicking their arses for years. Iran has heavily armed militias in countries all around the region. There’s a real threat that these factions could launch a massive coordinated missile attack on Israel, iron dome will not be able to cope with thousands of rockets and missiles being launched from all directions simultaneously. Iran should not be underestimated.

I am not sure you have much clarity around the military balance in that region... Jordan and Egypt won't attack Israel, they have both largely prospered since signing security agreements with Israel.... Syria has ceased to be a credible military entity since the Russians, US, UK and many others bombed the shit out of them.

Lebanon has a mostly ineffective military.

Iran won't attack.

Iraq is knackered.

Turkey is NATO, they will follow orders.

That leaves the Houthi, Hamas, Hezbollah jihadist nutcases ( Fatah too I guess)..... NONE of these would present an enduring threat to a military machine honed over 70 odd years.

 

[aftershavedave]

If he’s asking he would say “ so I know”
I think it’s a NSC 1st being asked where someone is from. Do you think it’s a nice question?

Yes it's a perfectly reasonable question. Why not when you speak of "it takes balls" ( a vey sick comment). If you are a dual-national fair enough, if you are Israeli, as I've said before I doubt your motives for being here

 

[Triggaaar]

I don't know enough about Israel's plans and tactics, but I can't help feeling they're sewing their own downfall.

Surely they can't fight the entire middle-east forever more and hope to come out safe? The best they can hope for, is to win, and motivate millions of orphans.