[Albion] McGhee 99% likely to leave by end of week!

[London Irish]

McGhee had not insulted the supporters who forked out cash to go to Wolves then watch us get thrashed by Stoke by claiming the games were 'irrelevant' then I would maybe wonder about boardroom shenanigans.

You know full well that the die was cast on these events before the Stoke defeat. Hence how you screwed £20 out of me!

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

Maybe if we had finished in a position that was not bottom of the league and 12 points from safety and McGhee had not insulted the supporters who forked out cash to go to Wolves then watch us get thrashed by Stoke by claiming the games were 'irrelevant' then I would maybe wonder about boardroom shenanigans. It strikes me that it is more a case of McGhee failed badly, not necessarily in terms of individual results but in terms of the overall performances and the direction he seems to be heading the club.

Another word on 'irrelevant' fixtures. These occur when you have won the league and the fans are having a party in the stands, when you're already in the playoffs and don't want to risk injuries or when you're safely mid-table and are trying out kids. 'Irrelevant' fixtures do not occur when you have been relegated with little more than a whimper and further humiliations will serve only to rub the fans' noses in it and lead to further questions about your own relevance to a football club.

Spot on.

 

[the Realist]

Scrutiny certainly becomes a very easy thing if you let events wash over you complacently without asking some awkward questions about who benefits in power struggles.

But this aint a power struggle you plank

 

[Les Biehn]

I feel a poll coming on. (Something that Les Biehn mght say )

Stop passing your filth off as something I might say you dirty little Barrel

























Loving it really

 

[Basil Fawlty]

Maybe if we had finished in a position that was not bottom of the league and 12 points from safety and McGhee had not insulted the supporters who forked out cash to go to Wolves then watch us get thrashed by Stoke by claiming the games were 'irrelevant' then I would maybe wonder about boardroom shenanigans. It strikes me that it is more a case of McGhee failed badly, not necessarily in terms of individual results but in terms of the overall performances and the direction he seems to be heading the club.

Another word on 'irrelevant' fixtures. These occur when you have won the league and the fans are having a party in the stands, when you're already in the playoffs and don't want to risk injuries or when you're safely mid-table and are trying out kids. 'Irrelevant' fixtures do not occur when you have been relegated with little more than a whimper and further humiliations will serve only to rub the fans' noses in it and lead to further questions about your own relevance to a football club.

I absolutely agree with that.

 

[aftershavedave]

Well, that's very trusting.

Scrutiny certainly becomes a very easy thing if you let events wash over you complacently without asking some awkward questions about who benefits in power struggles.

My experience of what happens in business is somewhat different to that.

If a board develops major differences over strategic direction, in this case, over a signficant management employee, then usually the faction that loses doesn't hang around inside the business that long in an executive role as their authority is significantly compromised.

When the losing faction in this case could be the chairman and chief executive, those fears are even more heightened.

I know some on here are viewing this board disagreement like a few fans talking in the pub. The stakes are a bit higher than that - the future of a multi-million pound business adds a different dimension to impasse disagreements.

when did you give up being a part-time hack and become a captain of industry?
what on earth do you know about corporate governance and the machinations of corporate boards?

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Why are you getting fired up about a bunch of rumours in a dross rag, the story has so many holes in it, it is almost impossible to speculate what is going on. as others have noted this Naylor story was printed purely to wind people up, my guess is the board will vote democratically ay the end of the week as to whether Mcghee should stay or not.....The vote will happen.... Mcghee will get sacked, storm in a teacup over.

Keep going though LI, it's very amusing seeing you getting royally owned and kicked on the floor like this big boy.

 

[Yoda]

Another word on 'irrelevant' fixtures. These occur when you have won the league and the fans are having a party in the stands, when you're already in the playoffs and don't want to risk injuries or when you're safely mid-table and are trying out kids. 'Irrelevant' fixtures do not occur when you have been relegated with little more than a whimper and further humiliations will serve only to rub the fans' noses in it and lead to further questions about your own relevance to a football club.

Or over the busy Christmas period where he doesn't feel we're going to get points in certain games so feilds a weaker team.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

what on earth do you know about corporate governance and the machinations of corporate boards?

I believe I know the answer to that question afters. A lack of response will answer it for you I think

 

[London Irish]

your understanding of conflicts of interest ignore the fact that disclosure and independent scrutiny are two remedies commonly available.

Here's a far better remedy - why doesn't he just say he is not going to commercially benefit from the building of the stadium?

Then he would demonstrate to all the world that his interest in the Albion is 100% commercially disinterested other than wanting to see his shareholding in the Albion grow in value and the business and club prosper as a result - ie. having the EXACT SAME interest as all fans.

 

[Rougvie]

What SHIT OR LIES have I made up you aggressive idiot?

1. Derek Chapman has NEVER stated an interest in building Falmer.

2. I wouldnt comment on what DC has actually done for this club unless I knew the facts, you clearly think that he has suddenly got on the bandwagon to cash in on a building project, if you really did know the facts you would feel like an absolute PRICK to even sugest it, and there are plenty of others here who will vouch for that

To indicate anything else is made up in your head.

You need to brush up on your HISTORY of this club, before you start spouting off against good people that have been around for more than the 3 or so years you have been following us for.

 

[Albion Rob]

You know full well that the die was cast on these events before the Stoke defeat. Hence how you screwed £20 out of me!

I can't imagine the Stoke defeat will have weakened Chapman's resolve or given him any less in his armoury when he argues for McGhee's removal.

One thing that defeat did do was cement the opinions of some that McGhee needs to be removed and pointed some of the waverers in the same direction. This, as you point out, could lead to less scrutiny of any boardroom upheaval because people will be so relieved to see a positive move on the pitch.

If McGhee would do the decent thing and resign then this could be avoided but he seems unlikely to do that.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Well, that's very trusting.

Scrutiny certainly becomes a very easy thing if you let events wash over you complacently without asking some awkward questions about who benefits in power struggles.

My experience of what happens in business is somewhat different to that.

If a board develops major differences over strategic direction, in this case, over a signficant management employee, then usually the faction that loses doesn't hang around inside the business that long in an executive role as their authority is significantly compromised.

When the losing faction in this case could be the chairman and chief executive, those fears are even more heightened.

I know some on here are viewing this board disagreement like a few fans talking in the pub. The stakes are a bit higher than that - the future of a multi-million pound business adds a different dimension to impasse disagreements.

But there is nothing at present to suggest that there is a struggle for control of the club. There are issues around the manager, which the Argus has highlighted, but beyond that nothing else.

Now if it was not a member of the board calling for McGhee to go, but something else, I am sure you would not be interested, but as it is McGhee you seem to be blowing it all out of proportion.

The big difference between now and 1995 is that the people involved at the top of the club seem to be Albion fans first and then business men, rather than a business man on the make via asset stripping.

 

[Les Biehn]

Why are you getting fired up about a bunch of rumours in a dross rag, the story has so many holes in it, it is almost impossible to speculate what is going on. as others have noted this Naylor story was printed purely to wind people up, my guess is the board will vote democratically ay the end of the week as to whether Mcghee should stay or not.....The vote will happen.... Mcghee will get sacked, storm in a teacup over.

Keep going though LI, it's very amusing seeing you getting royally owned and kicked on the floor like this big boy.

Jesus, while I don't necessarily agree on some of the speculation in the post that is pretty spot on with regards to assessing this little 'storm in a tea cup'.

 

[Row Z Creased Shirt]

Well this is what nearly a decade of pent up frustration gets you, a massive ruck over what appears to be very little at all. There are so many agendas, and so much emotion out there that every new development gets jumped on by every hot head who then seeks to twist the story to their own ends.

The problem with BHA at the moment and for the last 8 years has been the legacy of the Archer/Belotti regime. And at this precise moment in time there is no-one at the club, either on the board, staff or in the stands who can do f**k all about it. What can we do something about, err get rid of the manager, because everything is his fault. Well go he may, and he did himself no favours with the excerable performance against Stoke, but ultimately BHA will still be in the same long term predicament.

Whilst many may feel good about the manager being given the boot, nothing will change until we get Falmer. And that really is it.

 

[London Irish]

when did you give up being a part-time hack and become a captain of industry?
what on earth do you know about corporate governance and the machinations of corporate boards?

It's part of my job as a journalist specialising in the reporting of UK companies. When you are finished taking personal pot shots at me, do you want to get back to debate?

 

[aftershavedave]

Here's a far better remedy - why doesn't he just say he is not going to commercially benefit from the building of the stadium?

because it's not about him commercially benefitting from building the stadium, it's about him unfairly doing so. that's how potential conflicts of interests are dealt with in the real world

 

[the Realist]

Why are you getting fired up about a bunch of rumours in a dross rag, the story has so many holes in it, it is almost impossible to speculate what is going on. as others have noted this Naylor story was printed purely to wind people up, my guess is the board will vote democratically ay the end of the week as to whether Mcghee should stay or not.....The vote will happen.... Mcghee will get sacked, storm in a teacup over.

Keep going though LI, it's very amusing seeing you getting royally owned and kicked on the floor like this big boy.

Blimey - Dwayne gets sensible shock

Candidate for post of the year

 

[The Large One]

LI, let me turn this round.

He has been very patient in supporting the club with an investment which may or may not have paid off. At the time he put his money in, the whole stadium issue could still have fallen flat on its face. If the club had gone under, there would have been no guarantees that he would have got his money back.

But he has chosen to help the club with a seven-figure investment at a time when the club most needed it. He doesn't want the money back because he knows the club cannot afford it. He doesn't want to be seen to be responsible for the bankruptcy of the Albion. How do I know? He told me.

I would say at this juncture that it looks like a very shrewd investment. Assuming Adenstar get a sub-contract off the main contractor, it will be subject to the usual checks and balances of any large-scale publicly funded project. If there was an issue of conflict of interest, it would have been raised by now.

 

[aftershavedave]

It's part of my job as a journalist specialising in the reporting of UK companies. When you are finished taking personal pot shots at me, do you want to get back to debate?

if you granted other users of this board half the intelligence you assume for yourself then it wouldn't be necessary to question your specialist knowledge of the business world, which now seems fairly clear is next to zero