Man United fans in Rome...

[bathseagull]

...apparently some fans have had shoulders dislocated and arms broken at the hands of the baton-wielding police?

What year is this, sorry?

Is this really the highest-profile club football tournament in the world?

Disgusting - Middlesborough issued warnings to United fans heading for Rome, clearly there were concerns about the police and the fans there. Uefa have just sat back and let it happen...

 

[Publius Ovidius]

if you were really really cinical, you could argue that europe had to put up with 20 years of english fans rioting in their countries.........perhaps this is payback.


but we are not cinical and its really dreadful

 

[Gully]

They are just talking about this on R5, the commentator from the game is planning a "great escapesque" departure from the ground to avoid having to go back to their hire car...and the game finished an hour and a half ago...mental.

 

[Common as Mook]

However dreadful those scenes were, I can't help thinking Utd. brough it on themselves with all the warnings beforehand. They opened it up for the Roman police to say - OK then we'll show you exactly how hard we are.

 

[Rangdo]

United fans?

meh

 

[bathseagull]

i might go with that if it were the same fans going over there but this is a different generation.
also it all seems to centre around italy - the boro/roma trouble, tonights stuff, the policeman murder etc etc.
some sort of ban on italian clubs playing in europe?

 

[bathseagull]

However dreadful those scenes were, I can't help thinking Utd. brough it on themselves with all the warnings beforehand. They opened it up for the Roman police to say - OK then we'll show you exactly how hard we are.

wtf?

so the POLICE are justified in wading in with batons because they were provoked by a press release which was backed up by facts from last years' trouble?

 

[Nemesis]

Uefa have just sat back and let it happen...

As usual when it comes to European 'fans'.

It's only English fans who cause trouble severe enough to be punished. Italians, Dutch and Germans cause trouble-nothing happens. Spanish fans exhibit open racism-get fined 50p or something equally ludicrous.

Time the Euro football authorities woke up and addressed the real problems-an easy English target is no longer acceptable.

 

[Bry Nylon]

United wrote to their travelling supporters and said, "if you go to Rome, chances are you will get beaten up."

Rome officials said it was an outrageous slur on their city.

United fans went to Rome, and got beaten up.

Roma should be banned from the competition. For a long time.

 

[Buzzer]

they won't though. THe English will get the blame.

again.

 

[Nemesis]

United wrote to their travelling supporters and said, "if you go to Rome, chances are you will get beaten up."

Rome officials said it was an outrageous slur on their city.

United fans went to Rome, and got beaten up.

Roma should be banned from the competition. For a long time.

And we all know sod all will be done-unless they decide to charge the Manc fans with dripping blood in an unacceptable manner.

 

[timbha]

from the clips shown on Sky most of the beatings appeared to happen when the United fans had returned to their seats (standing) whilst missiles from the Roma fans continued to rain down on them.

Police continuing to beat people over the head while they are lying helpless on the ground can never be justified.

 

[British Bulldog]

Dont know what all the fuss is about? It's only a few boys having a bit of a dust up!

 

[El Presidente]

Police continuing to beat people over the head while they are lying helpless on the ground can never be justified.

Try watching Life on Mars

 

[Billy the Fish]

if you were really really cinical, you could argue that europe had to put up with 20 years of english fans rioting in their countries.........perhaps this is payback.

I beg to differ, you would only say that if you were really really a complete c*nt.

 

[alan partridge]

Dont know what all the fuss is about? It's only a few boys having a bit of a dust up!

and ofcourse it affects none else, in no way at all, whatsoever

 

[Gully]

Perhaps it is time we called the bluff in Europe, we withdraw our teams until the safety of our players and fans can be guaranteed, clearly it cannot in Italy at the present time. Either that or our fans boycott the away legs, the behaviour of the Italian police defies belief.

 

[Superphil]

What about the united fans who went charging over to the dividing fence as soon as the goal went in and started smashing against it, why do that? Those individuals showed no restraint, and what happened afterwards could be put down to them.

No-one comes out smelling of roses here, but the fans who start these things up are the ones at fault. And last night that was united fans and roma fans running headlong into the security fence and trying to smash it down. Each and every one of them is a tosser of the highest order, and they bring shame to their clubs, their other fans, and to football in general.

 

[adrian29uk]

At the end of the day both sets of supporters where wrong.

It was wrong for Man Utd to go taunting Roma supporters and it was wrong for the police to be so heavy handed.

Second to this it was wrong for Roma supporters to start taunting Man Utd supporters.

50/50

But then, when European supporters come over to this country do they act like animals and taunt the home supporters?

No because they respect our country.

Unfortunately English supporters will never ever be able to remove the hooligan association when travelling abroad, this is why the Italian police where on the Man Utd side.

The Man Utd and Roma supporters that did the taunting are pricks of the highest order.

I am just glad the Man Utd supporters where not sent down to play Naples because there the police would have probably just let both sets of fans get on with it.

 

[The Large One]

Don't agree.

English fans and English football has now finally won its reputation for good behaviour and good organisation.

After the policeman got killed in Sicily, the papers and media re-stated their plea for the FIGC to adopt the modelle inghlese way of organising football. The English way of running football, including crowd control, is seen as the model by which all other nations are aspiring to.

Even if we do still want to stand.

Having said that, although last night's game was signposted as being a potential trouble-spot, and with the Roman authorities last night, and Italian authorities in general not taking hooliganism seriously, a small minority of Roma fans, Manchester United fans and the hopelessly under-qualified Italian police were out of order.

What worries me most is that, because of the stature of both teams, UEFA won't take the Italian holliganism issue seriously. To them, they can't afford to antagonise or punish either club.