Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[ManOfSussex]

While it could be seen as depressing, its also quite uplifting that everyone seems to be doing social distansing reasonably well (maybe except for the bike road). People either on their own or with one other individual.

But sure, not much of a lockdown.

The problem is it only takes one exception like the cycle lane for it to become a serious problem for someone else, in terms of their health, by it being spread because of it.

There was half a dozen lads having a kick about in the park not doing any social distancing when I had a stroll an hour and a half ago. I had a look at that webcam footage from just before 14:50 and 13:50 today - I didn't see it being done 100% there either, be it on the beach or people passing on the seafront.

In normal times breaking the law and flouting the rules is a birthright if you're from Hastings, but this isn't the time to be doing it.

 

[oldboyroy]

Another 5800 positive tests which on average will equate to around 600 deaths until this positive test figure reduces to less than a thousand a day lockdown will continue

 

[Notters]

A pretty depressing article if true - https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/183...ton-hove-seafront-looks-like-today/#gallery10

Can any B&H residents confirm?

I haven't been down to the seafront here in Hastings for weeks, but footage from this webcam earlier shows a similar picture in terms of numbers on the actual seafront today also:

What a few people out for a walk like they're supposed to? All keeping their distance? Why is that depressing. A couple of people sat on the beach but they probably live in a hot flat and had a walk to get there, they're allowed a brief rest.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Another 5800 positive tests which on average will equate to around 600 deaths until this positive test figure reduces to less than a thousand a day lockdown will continue

Not necessarily. In fact I would hazard that is very unlikely. That is because they are now testing not only NHS workers who have symptoms but also care workers. A couple of weeks ago it was pretty much only patients who arrived already very unwell at hospital. Now in that figure, many of the positive tests will not need hospitalisation.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Haha these make me lols.

Same people will be moaning when BA have a monopoly and charge what ever they want.

Then again the people that normally sign these don’t go on the type of holiday Virgin Sell

Yeah true, best to just let the billionaires get away with it

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[Wrong-Direction]

The problem is it only takes one exception like the cycle lane for it to become a serious problem for someone else, in terms of their health, by it being spread because of it.

There was half a dozen lads having a kick about in the park not doing any social distancing when I had a stroll an hour and a half ago. I had a look at that webcam footage from just before 14:50 and 13:50 today - I didn't see it being done 100% there either, be it on the beach or people passing on the seafront.

In normal times breaking the law and flouting the rules is a birthright if you're from Hastings, but this isn't the time to be doing it.

Give it a rest, people are ALOWED out, getting tired of people dissing those going for walks on the beach and parks now.

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[dangull]

16,000 sounds a lot, but it is only a half full Amex figure to give it some perspective.

 

[ManOfSussex]

What a few people out for a walk like they're supposed to? All keeping their distance? Why is that depressing. A couple of people sat on the beach but they probably live in a hot flat and had a walk to get there, they're allowed a brief rest.

If they're all keeping their distance and they're all from the same household, fine. I just don't believe that is being done across the board though and the more people that are out, the more it won't be. It certainly wasn't on my walk earlier (again) and it didn't appear to be on that webcam, which if you're really, really bored you can also view. If it's happening in my neck of the woods, it's happening elsewhere. Why am I having to be the one stepping out into the road to maintain social distancing when shopping on Wednesday? Why are some of the other people I pass happy to walk past as normal, while some aren't?

I just stuck 'police breaking up parties' into my Google and I get this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52344037

https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2...ficer-sent-to-break-up-illegal-lincoln-party/

I wonder how many other parties Greater Manchester Police, Lincolnshire Police and other forces didn't attend last night because they weren't reported?

I just do not see any laurels to rest on yet I'm afraid and the longer this goes one, the more ****ed I am like most people will be.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Yeah true, best to just let the billionaires get away with it

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Over the loss of jobs? Prob for the best don’t you think?

Or are you one of those people that believes he sued the NHS and takes money of Virgin Money Sponsorship pages?

 

[ManOfSussex]

Give it a rest, people are ALOWED out, getting tired of people dissing those going for walks on the beach and parks now.

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I'm not dissing people going out if they're social distancing and doing the right thing. A minority are spoiling it by not doing it though and it becomes difficult if beaches and parks become busy. I fully appreciate I'm lucky where I am in that regard that I can social distance when out in a park close to me as it isn't generally too busy, even if an idiot is approaching me and isn't bothered about doing so.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

I'm not dissing people going out if they're social distancing and doing the right thing. A minority are spoiling it by not doing it though and it becomes difficult if beaches and parks become busy. I fully appreciate I'm lucky where I am in that regard that I can social distance when out in a park close to me as it isn't generally too busy, even if an idiot is approaching me and isn't bothered about doing so.

Of course theres a few people spoiling it. These are the c***s that walked amongst us before the virus and will continue to after it.

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[ManOfSussex]

Of course theres a few people spoiling it. These are the c***s that walked amongst us before the virus and will continue to after it.

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Unfortunately though because of these c***s, some perfectly decent people potentially won't be able to walk amongst us after it ever again.

 

[A1X]

A pretty depressing article if true - https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/183...ton-hove-seafront-looks-like-today/#gallery10

Can any B&H residents confirm?

I haven't been down to the seafront here in Hastings for weeks, but footage from this webcam earlier shows a similar picture in terms of numbers on the actual seafront today also:

As long as they're social distancing is there really any major problem if they're paddle-boarding rather than walking? Or are we now deciding which forms of exercise are and are not verboten?

 

[ManOfSussex]

As long as they're social distancing

That's all I'm concerned about.

 

[A1X]

A couple of people sat on the beach but they probably live in a hot flat and had a walk to get there, they're allowed a brief rest.

If I lived near the beach in the flat I live in I'd 100% sit on the beach for a bit. I'm allowed outside, as long as I'm not near anyone why does it matter? I wish I could afford a property with a garden.

 

[Mellotron]

Not sure if I’m reading this right, but he appears to be suggesting a sizeable proportion of people who have had COVID-19 may not produce anti-bodies, perhaps in some cases may not need to?

Concern therefore is that antibody tests won’t give us a true picture of how many have had it, and may be underestimating, possibly by a long way.

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My understanding - could be wrong - is that all 104 people have previously tested positive on the "do you have it now' COVID test.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

The chap from the Zoe app just said on Radio Five that they are reasonably sure, given the number of people who have contributed to it, that 4% of the population has had Covid 19. Far fewer than most estimates.

 

[dazzer6666]

Not sure if I’m reading this right, but he appears to be suggesting a sizeable proportion of people who have had COVID-19 may not produce anti-bodies, perhaps in some cases may not need to?

Concern therefore is that antibody tests won’t give us a true picture of how many have had it, and may be underestimating, possibly by a long way.

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My understanding - could be wrong - is that all 104 people have previously tested positive on the "do you have it now' COVID test.

Yep, real concern that anyone who has had it may not be immune from catching it again. Much more (and more precise) data needed though..............

On the plus side, 5800 positive test won't lead to 600 deaths. As testing numbers increase the % of those tested leading to death will drop dramatically - up until very recently only the seriously ill (in hospital) have been tested - now it's including, for example, NHS staff showing mild symptoms.

 

[Mellotron]

Yep, real concern that anyone who has had it may not be immune from catching it again. Much more (and more precise) data needed though..............

On the plus side, 5800 positive test won't lead to 600 deaths. As testing numbers increase the % of those tested leading to death will drop dramatically - up until very recently only the seriously ill (in hospital) have been tested - now it's including, for example, NHS staff showing mild symptoms.

I suppose however, an optimistic view could be that it might be so mild in some that they do not even create antibodies, and therefore future reinfections for those people may be similar in nature again?

As you say - the positive cases are shifting - previously it was only people who absolutely needed to be tested, and were mostly already showing moderate to severe symptoms. That is no longer the case as testing should shift more and more to NHS and other key workers.

 

[Mellotron]

It is however frustrating if this means that antibody testing might not be the game changer we hoped it might be, given that in this small test sample, over 90% of those who have recovered from COVID-19 don't even have antibodies to show!

Be interesting to see the numbers on their further test in 3 weeks' time.