Lynch in trouble

[Pavilionaire]

In an ideal world Slade would meet with Knight and discuss whether they wanted to have Lynch in for a chat. If both agree it's then up to Slade to decide whether he wants Lynch to pay for us. If Slade DOES want him them I'd hope Lynch would knuckle down and play for the manager.

However, if Lynch is not fully committed to the cause he should be sold on for as much money as we can get, as early as possible.

Having just got some team spirit back and some stability the last thing we need is a Billy Big Bollocks giving it the Leon Knight treatment.

 

[Keeping The Dream Alive.]

Lynch is lying. By agreeing with Robinson he creates a shared attitude between the two of them and thus feels safer when criticising the club merely to have a common association with Jake and therefore enhance their relationship and make himself look bigger and better than the Albion . The use of 'c*unt' suggests he is lying as he finds the need to back up his point through the use of a powerful expletive when he could quite easily leave it out.

 

[The Large One]

In an ideal world Slade would meet with Knight and discuss whether they wanted to have Lynch in for a chat. If both agree it's then up to Slade to decide whether he wants Lynch to pay for us. If Slade DOES want him them I'd hope Lynch would knuckle down and play for the manager.

However, if Lynch is not fully committed to the cause he should be sold on for as much money as we can get, as early as possible.

Having just got some team spirit back and some stability the last thing we need is a Billy Big Bollocks giving it the Leon Knight treatment.

Agreed.

 

[Acker79]

Re: lynch or White lying
Perhaps neither are being entirely honest. I mean, White could have been phoning up and having a general 'how's it going?' chat, so he has been in contact.
Perhaps lynch saw the same conversation like a friendly thing, and not official business, as they didn't discuss next season.



I seem to remember Dean Hammond complaining that he played enough games to trigger a re-sign clause in his contract and the club didn't even hint at starting negotiaitions until much later? I also have vague recollection of Baz Savage and George O'Callaghan having complaints about the way negotiations were handled (though, they didn't exactly behave properly, either).

It seems there is a problem with the way contract negotiations/career talks go on between the club and the players, and perhaps, as someone else here suggests, Russell Slade's vision for how the club should be restructured well address this issue.


I think we also need to allow for the possibility a) he was drunk and was being egged on, b) his account has been hacked either by a Albion fan who doesn't want him back, or a forrest fan who doesn't want him to leave, c) his agent suggested he make it seem he was reluctant to return in an effort to aid either contract renegotiation with brighton, or transfer deal with Forrest and he went too far

 

[Don Quixote]

And no one should phone him. He wanted to move away so he can f*** off. As for calling people at the club C'unts that is disgraceful and is no way to talk to the people that pay him money.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Re: lynch or White lying
Perhaps neither are being entirely honest. I mean, White could have been phoning up and having a general 'how's it going?' chat, so he has been in contact.
Perhaps lynch saw the same conversation like a friendly thing, and not official business, as they didn't discuss next season.



I seem to remember Dean Hammond complaining that he played enough games to trigger a re-sign clause in his contract and the club didn't even hint at starting negotiaitions until much later? I also have vague recollection of Baz Savage and George O'Callaghan having complaints about the way negotiations were handled (though, they didn't exactly behave properly, either).

It seems there is a problem with the way contract negotiations/career talks go on between the club and the players, and perhaps, as someone else here suggests, Russell Slade's vision for how the club should be restructured well address this issue.


I think we also need to allow for the possibility a) he was drunk and was being egged on, b) his account has been hacked either by a Albion fan who doesn't want him back, or a forrest fan who doesn't want him to leave, c) his agent suggested he make it seem he was reluctant to return in an effort to aid either contract renegotiation with brighton, or transfer deal with Forrest and he went too far

I think you might be over-analysing this

 

[Acker79]

I think you might be over-analysing this

My favourite pasttime.

 

[theonesmith]

Why's Jake being had a go at by some? I feel sorry for him/ all our out of contract players as it's a scary time to go through, not knowing where you'll be. There looks to be a lot of competition in the free agent market this summer too. I agree what Lynch said was out of hand, but theres no point in criticising him/getting angry over it, just sell him and move on.

I know this is football and a lot of you with/without jobs will just say that they need to earn their contracts and shouldn't be footballers if they don't want the risk. But this isn't the nicest time in their season/careers so just bear in mind what they're going through.

 

[theonesmith]

And no one should phone him. He wanted to move away so he can f*** off. As for calling people at the club C'unts that is disgraceful and is no way to talk to the people that pay him money.

Agreed, but been in a football team? When we talked as team mates in my team last year there was a swearword in between every 4 words in a sentance. Unnecersary, but thats footballers for you. So maybe using that swearword doesn't mean as much to him as it may to everyone else. But still shouldn't be done on a public website

 

[Pavilionaire]

Never mind about what the Albion think, what about Forest? They've struggled and he's not exactly set the world alight with them, so it must be even more unlikely that Forest will offer him a long-term contract now he's just called his present employers "(unts".

Whatever he says the Albion gave him his chance at a career in football and they still employ him - he'd do well to remember both those things.

 

[Harold]

I seem to remember Dean Hammond complaining that he played enough games to trigger a re-sign clause in his contract and the club didn't even hint at starting negotiaitions until much later? I also have vague recollection of Baz Savage and George O'Callaghan having complaints about the way negotiations were handled (though, they didn't exactly behave properly, either).

It seems there is a problem with the way contract negotiations/career talks go on between the club and the players, and perhaps, as someone else here suggests, Russell Slade's vision for how the club should be restructured well address this issue.

Is there really a problem? If its that the club doesn't buckle to petulant demands and agent driven press releases from the characters you cite (Savage, Callaghan, Hammond - you can throw in Lynch, Knight, Kazim-Richards as well I reckon) then I hope it isn't addressed and stays as part of Slades new structure. Decent players, but all had common characters (poor attitudes, negative behaviours, and ultimately ideas above their station) that were the problem.

 

[Don Quixote]

Agreed, but been in a football team? When we talked as team mates in my team last year there was a swearword in between every 4 words in a sentance. Unnecersary, but thats footballers for you. So maybe using that swearword doesn't mean as much to him as it may to everyone else. But still shouldn't be done on a public website

Yes i have played football for a club and yes there is always a lot of swearing. Usually "f***" is used more often, C*nt just seems overly harsh. Especially when directed at his boss.

 

[Yoda]

I'd let him rot in the reserves personally, getting rid is playing into his hands.

 

[Insider]

All he did was moan about his employees to a mate. Its not like he phoned up The Argus to slag them off is it?

No, what Joel did was misconduct and out of order.

I doubt the club would even have known about it if it hadn't appeared on here and then been picked up by The Argus.

Storm in a tea cup.

Actually we were aware of this before the Argus, and before it was on NSC.

 

[Insider]

So either Lynch is lying, or White is.

Total storm in a teacup, born from a drunken post on Facebook. Dean White has been in regular contact. He spoke to Joel about two weeks ago, and again on Tuesday of this week. There is no major problem here, the point is (made in the final para of the story) that Joel needs to decide if he wants to be an Albion player or not. Russell clearly rates him, watch the SW interview on the day he got the job (Joel is one of the handful of players he singles out by name) and while he hasn't had the chance to meet him personally, for obvious reasons, the backroom staff have stayed in contact with Joel and watched him in matches for Forest. Equally, while Russell had a relegation battle to focus on with us, so did Joel with Forest, so discussions about next season can be put to the back burner until now. Russell will meet with him next week, when I am sure both will be able to have a grown-up discussion about where Joel's future lies.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

I'll let Slade make the decision on him.I have a feeling he will wipe the slate clean as Lynch has been mucked about by Adams and Slade rates him.I want to keep him and i hope Slade does.

Mucked about by Adams?

Do you mean that for the first couple of games this season Adams should have played an injured Lynch over an on form Hawkins?

It was clear by his reaction to not playing that he didn't want to stay and play for this club, so engineered a move away. He had seen Hammond do something similar and be rewarded with a move to a higher league club and in his head he thought thats where he should be playing so did the same.

I think he should be sold but not cheaply, if we cant get a decent price i would just let him rot in the reserves for his poor attitude towards the club that invested in his development. Maybe Wilkins going had far more to do with it than Adams supposedly 'mucking him around' but i suspect it is just his ego and desire to play at a higher level and basically we weren't and still arn't in a high enough league for him to be happy, he believed his own hype.

He wasn't prepared to fight for his place then, so if he came back now what has changed to say that he would fight for his place this time around - nothing

 

[beorhthelm]

All he did was moan about his employees to a mate.

on a public forum with his name blazened across the comments he makes. he might as well have phone up the Argus. this isnt the same as a private chat on the phone or even down the pub and being over heard.

 

[Acker79]

Is there really a problem? If its that the club doesn't buckle to petulant demands and agent driven press releases from the characters you cite (Savage, Callaghan, Hammond - you can throw in Lynch, Knight, Kazim-Richards as well I reckon) then I hope it isn't addressed and stays as part of Slades new structure. Decent players, but all had common characters (poor attitudes, negative behaviours, and ultimately ideas above their station) that were the problem.

No, it's that several players have expressed disappointment with the club after the club, as they feel, has not exactly shown any great hurry to sign them.

I see what you're saying, and agree that clubs shouldn't bow to players' press releases, but that is all part of the game of negotiating. Hammond didn't complain the moment he reached his trigger game, he complained a couple of months later when they still hadn't indicated any interest. Joel is complaining about several months of no contact, though has only waited a week since the season ended. But like insider suggests, it is a drunken late night posting.

The complaints are in the player not feeling wanted by the club before negotiations take place, which is a terrible starting point in negotiations. Especially if it takes the form of not starting negotiations as soon as you can, even if it's a simple note of "you've played enough games for us to start negotiating for next year, we should start looking at a new deal" to get the ball rolling, even if they highlight there's still 8 months on the contract they can take their time.

 

[Wozza]

Haha no, footballers aren't my type!

So you don't consider Ben Andrews to be a footballer? Fair enough, I suppose.

 

[Acker79]

So you don't consider Ben Andrews to be a footballer? Fair enough, I suppose.

Isn't ben andrews a pop "star"?

EDIT: And after doing a google image search, isn't ben andrews also a gay porn star?