Leonardo Ulloa

[kevo]

even more so when they are coming from a foreign league and maybe don't even speak English.

How many Spanish speakers do we now have in the squad?! (not to mention the manager and assistant manager!)

 

[The Truth]

This is like pulling teeth!

IF he is successful, he is worth more than the fee, obviously. But all signings are gambles, even more so when they are coming from a foreign league and maybe don't even speak English.

I expect him to be a success, as does Poyet no doubt, but if he fails you've poured a million more down the drain than you needed to.

We need a big striker with a decent touch to help us get into the Prem. 1.5/2 million is cheap. I don't think this is a massive gamble unlike other Championship signings (rhodes)

 

[saafend_seagull]

To yourself and others, it's quite clear that nobody bothers to read other people's posts on here. I actually broke that news about Granada on this very forum for example.

Even if I had only seen 20 minutes of him it would have been 20 minutes more than any of you, and if you'd bothered to read my previous posts on the matter (including the one above) you would know that I expect Ulloa to be successful. As a supporter of a team in the same division as Almeria I'm pleased he is no longer with them - and I also said that in a previous post.

I've actually seen Ulloa play live on several occasions (I only said "as recently as..." in my last post). I also saw him in August, when he played at Elche last season and when he played for his previous club Castellon. I've also seen him on Spanish TV many times.

He is NOT worth the money Brighton are paying for the reasons Ive already given. Even though there were La Liga sides interested in him none of them will have wanted to pay a transfer fee because that is the Spanish market right now. At the most they might have got a few hundred thousand, but I doubt any of the clubs that were looking at him would even do that. There has been no auction and even if there had been you would easily have outbid the Spanish teams in both fee and wages. In fact, the closer it got to the end of January without a resolution, the more your hand would have been strengthened. Paying the full asking price straight away is bad business.

So to summarise:

- You have seen him a couple of times
- Our scouts have watched him for EIGHTEEN months
- Poyet / Tarricco have their current jobs for a reason
- Why are you not a professional football club manager?
- All of the above makes your point valued more?

 

[Surf's Up]

"But all signings are gambles, even more so when they are coming from a foreign league and maybe don't even speak English".

Surely this is the point - if it works and his goals get us to the chosen land then the fee will have been fully vindicated. If he flops we get to look stupid. I trust Gus's judgement on this guy and he will be coming to a club with a significant spanish speaking contingent and a city with a significant spanish ex-pat community. My biggest worry is actually how he'll cope with the english weather but if he sat through the game on saturday when it was raining and dark and cold and still wants to come then he knows what he's letting himself in for!!

 

[Medwayseagull]

To yourself and others, it's quite clear that nobody bothers to read other people's posts on here. I actually broke that news about Granada on this very forum for example.

Even if I had only seen 20 minutes of him it would have been 20 minutes more than any of you, and if you'd bothered to read my previous posts on the matter (including the one above) you would know that I expect Ulloa to be successful. As a supporter of a team in the same division as Almeria I'm pleased he is no longer with them - and I also said that in a previous post.

I've actually seen Ulloa play live on several occasions (I only said "as recently as..." in my last post). I also saw him in August, when he played at Elche last season and when he played for his previous club Castellon. I've also seen him on Spanish TV many times.

He is NOT worth the money Brighton are paying for the reasons Ive already given. Even though there were La Liga sides interested in him none of them will have wanted to pay a transfer fee because that is the Spanish market right now. At the most they might have got a few hundred thousand, but I doubt any of the clubs that were looking at him would even do that. There has been no auction and even if there had been you would easily have outbid the Spanish teams in both fee and wages. In fact, the closer it got to the end of January without a resolution, the more your hand would have been strengthened. Paying the full asking price straight away is bad business.

So you think everyone should pour over your past posts to establish what you said previously. My reference to Granada was based on Spanish media outlets reporting it.

How do you know it was the full asking price ?

How do you know we haven't outbid other clubs ?

Who is it you support ?

 

[ferring seagull]

Sorry double post - original below

 

[ferring seagull]

All I have seen is that we have agreed terms for Leonardo Ulloa but can someone please advise whether it is a done deal or otherwise.

I may well have missed it but it seems to me that if it does not happen we will be left with much egg on our faces.http://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/images/smilies/down.gif

 

[Willy Dangle]

I'll be in Dicks bar for lunch tomorrow, I'll ask the bar maid she'll know.

 

[peterward]

"But all signings are gambles, even more so when they are coming from a foreign league and maybe don't even speak English".

Surely this is the point - if it works and his goals get us to the chosen land then the fee will have been fully vindicated. If he flops we get to look stupid. I trust Gus's judgement on this guy and he will be coming to a club with a significant spanish speaking contingent and a city with a significant spanish ex-pat community. My biggest worry is actually how he'll cope with the english weather but if he sat through the game on saturday when it was raining and dark and cold and still wants to come then he knows what he's letting himself in for!!

No need to round on Gordonchas he obviously knows more about ulloa presently than us fans. But as for the transfer being good value or not, maybe that is relative to our 2 different countries. In spain Gordonchas suggests 1.5 million is a huge amount nobody would pay for a league 2 striker, whereas there are very few in the English second tier who sell for much less, so for us the price is normal.

Maybe his suggestion as being over valued is based on what a spanish team would expect for such a fee and not an english one?

 

[gordonchas]

So to summarise:

- You have seen him a couple of times
- Our scouts have watched him for EIGHTEEN months
- Poyet / Tarricco have their current jobs for a reason
- Why are you not a professional football club manager?
- All of the above makes your point valued more?

This is quite amazing, even when I praise the player signed I still get stick from the hard of understanding. Let me shout so you can hear. I EXPECT HIM TO DO WELL IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

You have overpaid. Just like Liverpool overpaid for Andy Carroll even though they'd scouted him and Dalglish and Comolli "had their jobs for a reason".

Does everyone have to be a "professional football club manager" to express an opinion here? Who were you the manager of?

How do you know it was the full asking price ? http://www.elalmeria.es/article/deportes/1435836/ya/hay/preacuerdo/con/brighton/por/leo/ulloa.html

How do you know we haven't outbid other clubs ? There were no other bids

Who is it you support ?

There's a clue in the very post you were actually replying to

 

[gordonchas]

No need to round on Gordonchas he obviously knows more about ulloa presently than us fans. But as for the transfer being good value or not, maybe that is relative to our 2 different countries. In spain Gordonchas suggests 1.5 million is a huge amount nobody would pay for a league 2 striker, whereas there are very few in the English second tier who sell for much less, so for us the price is normal.

Maybe his suggestion as being over valued is based on what a spanish team would expect for such a fee and not an english one?

Exactly this. Thanks for that, you've restored my faith.

 

[HAILSHAM SEAGULL]

I notice that Granada, who were rumoured to be trying to hijack the Ulloa deal are on Sky at the moment, away to Getafe.

Looks like they have one of the hairy bikers in midfield from Soccer AM

 

[Cranky]

Exactly this. Thanks for that, you've restored my faith.

This just highlights how overpriced players in England are at the moment. Spanish clubs are obviously aware of this so will hold out for higher prices if selling to English clubs.

In reality this should be very good business for both clubs as Almeria get a fee above the Spanish market rate and we pay less than buying from the British market place.

As long as he scores goals we have nothing to worry about.

 

[Meade's Ball]

Exactly this. Thanks for that, you've restored my faith.

Try not to take misreadings to heart. I'm glad you think he's a decent enough player. I haven't seen his youtube clips and been astounded by any whizzbangs, but my heart pounds with the prospect of his touch and link-up play and some thunderbolt headers. Hopefully he'll prove his value in no time at all and get to enjoy his new experience.

 

[stss30]

Met Swansea's De Guzman today. Top man. Played v #Ulloa in Spain & amazed he seems set for #bhafc. "Wow. Good enough for the Prem Lge".

Dave Beckett (daveybeckett) on Twitter

 

[shaolinpunk]

Met Swansea's De Guzman today. Top man. Played v #Ulloa in Spain & amazed he seems set for #bhafc. "Wow. Good enough for the Prem Lge".

I was just about to post this.

I was excited to see how he does but now I can't bloody wait to see him in the stripes. No pressure or anything though, obviously

 

[pornomagboy]

Met Swansea's De Guzman today. Top man. Played v #Ulloa in Spain & amazed he seems set for #bhafc. "Wow. Good enough for the Prem Lge".

Dave Beckett (daveybeckett) on Twitter

That's what I like to hear

 

[stss30]

I was just about to post this.

I was excited to see how he does but now I can't bloody wait to see him in the stripes. No pressure or anything though, obviously

I feel the same. I still think he might need a month or two to get back into playing regular football and in a different league, so I hope he isn't judged too quickly.

 

[Soulman]

At last, back onto an optimistic outlook on the potential new signing.

 

[Frutos]

Met Swansea's De Guzman today. Top man. Played v #Ulloa in Spain & amazed he seems set for #bhafc. "Wow. Good enough for the Prem Lge".

Dave Beckett (daveybeckett) on Twitter

Sounds rather promising.