[News] Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II Passes Away - 08/09/2022

[Weststander]

Kind of ?

We should have a chat over a pint at some point….I was head of international compliance for the private banking division of a big bank (and had to manage the Swiss team directly for several months after I had to fire our local head), and group head of regulatory compliance assurance at a bigger bank before I jacked it all in…….

Definitely, to wash down a curry

 

[dazzer6666]

Definitely, to wash down a curry

Def up for that

 

[Weststander]

Def up for that

Perhaps another nsc or three could join us?

 

[LamieRobertson]

Perhaps another nsc or three could join us?

Is it tax deductible?

 

[Weststander]

Is it tax deductible?

Yes …. you can come.

 

[clapham_gull]

Sovereign Grant last year-£86m Crown Estate Surplus £318m. I think that's the economic argument covered.

.. it's the fact you are making it that is odd.

The Sovereign Grant doesn't cover all expenditure on a Royal Family by the way. That's just the official headline figure.

The estimated cost is actually higher than the 318m you describe.

Now that's fine if you support their existence, because a Royal Family shouldn't be expected to cost nothing. But please stop this argument that us subjects are actually investing in them for the greater wealth of the country.

It's as if Royalists have run out of ideas.

 

[GT49er]

There you go ‘The Seagull’ - all explained, “ay”.

Yes, it is facts. But to someone who knows that royalty is bad, presidents are good, facts which are facts are meaningless. It's like trying to explain the earth isn't flat.

 

[Eeyore]

.. it's the fact you are making it that is odd.

The Sovereign Grant doesn't cover all expenditure on a Royal Family by the way. That's just the official headline figure.

The estimated cost is actually higher than the 318m you describe.

Now that's fine if you support their existence, because a Royal Family shouldn't be expected to cost nothing. But please stop this argument that us subjects are actually investing in them for the greater wealth of the country.

It's as if Royalists have run out of ideas.

I'm not a Royalist. Charles is not my king. I enjoyed the booing at proclamation. Good old dissent.

But I really don't care if we have them or not. An economic sideshow (depending on how it is looked at). Bit of pomp and pageantry. Something that feels consistent in an uncertain world.

Having the same debate with a friend.

If anything, I feel they are used by the institutions of power. I think best to direct the ire elsewhere. To big business, the media, government. In that order.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

And we extend the hand of friendship to the Saudi leadership.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-62940906

Listening to a former ambassador to the UN justify this, 'on balance', as appropriate, this morning, I pondered for a moment whether Putin been sent an invitation.

 

[OzMike]

The funeral is on Monday and we have a public holiday for it on.................Thursday.

 

[The Seagull]

There you go ‘The Seagull’ - all explained, “ay”.

If you can understand all that you’re a better man than I am clearly. What a huge grey area in that statement. And as I’ve said before the queen did profit from the estate in 2018 to the tune of millions. We’ll not agree on this so I’ll stop now. Just remember, the next homeless person you walk past doesn’t need to be there, but the monarchy are living in disgusting wealth.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

.. it's the fact you are making it that is odd.

The Sovereign Grant doesn't cover all expenditure on a Royal Family by the way. That's just the official headline figure.

The estimated cost is actually higher than the 318m you describe.

Now that's fine if you support their existence, because a Royal Family shouldn't be expected to cost nothing. But please stop this argument that us subjects are actually investing in them for the greater wealth of the country.

It's as if Royalists have run out of ideas.

Post a link to your estimated costs. The Sovereign Grant and Crown Estates to the Treasury Is published every year.

 

[nicko31]

The funeral is on Monday and we have a public holiday for it on.................Thursday.

And of course you have the Queens Birthday PH in June as well.

 

[drew]

If you can understand all that you’re a better man than I am clearly. What a huge grey area in that statement. And as I’ve said before the queen did profit from the estate in 2018 to the tune of millions. We’ll not agree on this so I’ll stop now. Just remember, the next homeless person you walk past doesn’t need to be there, but the monarchy are living in disgusting wealth.

Well that explains a lot!!

 

[dazzer6666]

.. it's the fact you are making it that is odd.

The Sovereign Grant doesn't cover all expenditure on a Royal Family by the way. That's just the official headline figure.

The estimated cost is actually higher than the 318m you describe.

Now that's fine if you support their existence, because a Royal Family shouldn't be expected to cost nothing. But please stop this argument that us subjects are actually investing in them for the greater wealth of the country.

It's as if Royalists have run out of ideas.

How much higher exactly ? Bit lame to not support your claim with any evidence

 

[The Seagull]

Well that explains a lot!!

Not highlighting the ‘homeless’ line explains a lot about you. Happy Sunday

 

[Javeaseagull]

Why would you sell them off abroad ? Why sell them to anybody ? Give the land, property etc back to the British people to look after, employ people, no profit. Seems weird ay. Imagine how many people it would help rather than the few.

Why sell them off abroad? Because that is what we do. We’ve sold off the Railways, the Water Companies and the rest of the Monopoly board to overseas buyers so why not the Crown estates?

 

[drew]

Not highlighting the ‘homeless’ line explains a lot about you. Happy Sunday

Really, you proclaim you don't understand a simple explanation which I consider explains a lot about many of your posts and you come back with that!

Guessing you spend all your spare time helping out at hostels for the homeless and soup kitchens etc etc.

There is of course loads more that can be done for the homeless but the fact it isn't is a political choice and not down to the fact we have a monarchy.

 

[PeterT]

There’s a welcome home for those who really don’t like the Royal Family:

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...nner-and-chant-queen-scottish-premiership/amp

Wow

And they were not the only ones north of the border:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport...ws/dundee-united-fans-hijack-rangers-28015800

 

[jakarta]

Murderer apparently no longer welcome, small mercies eh?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-62921700