Gordons gaffe

[Pavilionaire]

I feel sorry for Brown in as much as SOMEONE from his entourage should be looking out for things like the mike, his appearance, his diary. What the f*** was his PA doing?

In historical terms, Kinnock's gaffe of the Sheffield Rally ranks higher because, arguably, in that moment he turned probable victory into likely defeat.

Here, Brown was never going to win a majority and he was probably not going to continue to be Labour leader either, so it's not an election-costing mistake but, that said, it remains to be seen the positive impact it gives the other 2 parties.

There's almost certainly going to be a question on immigration tomorrow night, after they're done with the economy, and Brown would have to be Houdini to come out of it looking like anything other than a twat.

Any Labour MP with a majority of less than 7 or 8,000 must be splitting chips over this.

 

[seagull_special]

I suppose the Labour party will have to get rid of him, Milliband for the next PM?

Not a bad strategy for the Labour party although a tad late - Gordon could step down because off ill health and Milliband could takeover as acting leader until formally elected

 

[simmo]

Thats true but Libs and Tories stand to gain, more so the Lib Dems I expect because they are a centre party and less right wing!

How can you possibly say that. The Lib Dem policies are far to the left (unilateral nuclear disarmenant, their policies on immigration for e.g) of the Labour party whom are centre left, wheras the Tories under call me Dave has repositioned the Tories to centre right.

The political landscape has changed in the last few years, this isn't 1979 you know. Eventhough I do think the Libs will gain more than the Cons because any Labour votes that are lost are more likely to vote Libs than Tories (because some Lab voters because of history etc. Thatcher is the devils spawn yawn, would never vote Tory)

 

[Pavilionaire]

Gordy looked absolutely shattered in the chair on Jeremy Vine's show even before he'd heard the tape. Sheesh, my eyes never loooked that bad even when I was getting up 3 times a night with my kids when they were babies!

 

[severnside gull]

If they dared to suggest that it shows Brown to be essentially a very real and ordinary person who is happily immune to the influence of the spin doctors unlike the plastic party leaders he opposes it could prove to be an advantage. I am frankly pissed off with sound bite politics where it is clear that anything even vaguely true to life is being airbrushed out

 

[beorhthelm]

I do not understand the rantings of the first sentence there but I do not think it will have any impact because as he will not win the election anyway.

does "dismissive" make more sence?

no he wont win anyway, but what does it do to change the vote of those similar to the little old lady? does it swing Labour seats to Tory?

 

[Gwylan]

Why does everyone assume that Miliband will be leader? He had a chance and bottled it, that will count against him.

I rather fancy Alan Johnson could get it

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

As long as its not Ed Bollocks.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Sir Tony Of Bennshire.

 

[seagull_special]

How can you possibly say that. The Lib Dem policies are far to the left (unilateral nuclear disarmenant, their policies on immigration for e.g) of the Labour party whom are centre left, wheras the Tories under call me Dave has repositioned the Tories to centre right.

The political landscape has changed in the last few years, this isn't 1979 you know. Eventhough I do think the Libs will gain more than the Cons because any Labour votes that are lost are more likely to vote Libs than Tories (because some Lab voters because of history etc. Thatcher is the devils spawn yawn, would never vote Tory)

Good point maybe I should have said 'perceived' but the right wing element in the Tory party is bubbling along nicely and have kept a low profle in the hope of getting elected. UKIP have a number of Tory seats they are not contesting because they are aligned to their policies and view points

 

[Don Quixote]

It will not be Johnson, he'd never make it to PM it will be one of the Millibands, they are SLICK and look the part.

 

[Easy 10]

It could have been worse.
He could have slumped back in the car and gone "f*** me what an annoying old bint THAT was. Sue, put me in front of one of those frothing, withered old crones again this week, and I'll ram an umbrella right up your squiff and have Mandy come round and open it".

 

[seagull_special]

It could have been worse.
He could have slumped back in the car and gone "f*** me what an annoying old bint THAT was. Sue, put me in front of one of those frothing, withered old crones again this week, and I'll ram an umbrella right up your squiff and have Mandy come round and open it".

Thats what he said after he turned the mike off

 

[Pavilionaire]

It could have been worse.
He could have slumped back in the car and gone "f*** me what an annoying old bint THAT was. Sue, put me in front of one of those frothing, withered old crones again this week, and I'll ram an umbrella right up your squiff and have Mandy come round and open it".

Such a candid remark would have gone down well with young voters, and those of a sado-masochistic bent.

 

[simmo]

Good point maybe I should have said 'perceived' but the right wing element in the Tory party is bubbling along nicely and have kept a low profle in the hope of getting elected. UKIP have a number of Tory seats they are not contesting because they are aligned to their policies and view points

This election is pretty bizarre really as the party that wins the central ground tends to win the election normally that is why Blair was so popular and won massive majorities because he appealed to such people. Call me Dave really should have won the central ground but he isn't Clegg is, yet Clegg's parties policies are not very central at all they really should be scrutinised more by those whom regard themselves as a floater/central (I think it is down to the sleaze and the utter contempt that the public have for Lab/Con after the last parliament). Unilateral nuclear disarmenent for example is a very left wing policy and would be regarded not so long ago as being "looney left".

 

[The Large One]

This election is pretty bizarre really as the party that wins the central ground tends to win the election normally that is why Blair was so popular and won massive majorities because he appealed to such people. Call me Dave really should have won the central ground but he isn't Clegg is, yet Clegg's parties policies are not very central at all they really should be scrutinised more by those whom regard themselves as a floater/central (I think it is down to the sleaze and the utter contempt that the public have for Lab/Con after the last parliament). Unilateral nuclear disarmenent for example is a very left wing policy and would be regarded not so long ago as being "looney left".

It was only ever considered a left-wing policy because our perceived enemies (and the Left's 'friends') were on the far-left politically (i.e. USSR). If our enemies were right-wing...

 

[porkypie]

Joker!

 

[BLOCK F]

They'll soon dig up some shit on this old dear,
by tea time she'll be exposed as a card carrying member of the Eva Braun youth.

 

[simmo]

It was only ever considered a left-wing policy because our perceived enemies (and the Left's 'friends') were on the far-left politically (i.e. USSR). If our enemies were right-wing...

I am sorry but I don't get that. The only political organisations I know in the UK that have unilateral nuclear disarmenant are regarded as left wing SNP, Scargill's Socialist Party (whatever it is called now), The Respect Party??

The Lib Dems policy on immigration is certainly, how shall we put this, very radical and I am sure would be regarded as very left wing.

However, the real thing that should be pointed out is that they intend to raise the tax threshold to £10000 for every working person in the UK. In this time of economic austerity how the heck are we going to pay for that?

 

[dje shoreham]

the tory press will be getting the headlines ready for tomorrow - if they go over the top i think it might backfire on them - clegg and cameron would do well to distance themselves from "MRS ROCHDALE BIGOTGATE"