EU and AstraZeneca

[JC Footy Genius]

And in the hour before the Bear Pit Exhibit B



And we take the piss out of Palace for burning their own town down

Thanks for quoting my post about the EU response to not securing enough vaccine on a thread about the EU troubles securing enough vaccine.

We will put yours down as Wz moronic post Exhibit Z

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[WATFORD zero]

Thanks for quoting my post about the EU response to not securing enough vaccine on a thread about the EU troubles securing enough vaccine.

We will put yours down as Wz moronic post Exhibit Z

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You seem very angry today, even when you're posting as Is It POTG? Calm down and celebrate.

After all, you're a winner in life

I am often very short and insulting to those exact posters because it can be frustrating that grown ups can't discuss anything in peace, but I keep this it to the Bear Pit.

Case rests m'lud

 

[The Clamp]

Oh bless, he’s calmed down now, keep up the good work Clampster


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Oh I see, that old chestnut. You are the one who admitted posting vociferously.


"....many including me probably wouldn’t be so vociferous on all these threads"


vociferously
/və(ʊ)ˈsɪf(ə)rəsli/
adverb
in a loud and forceful manner.

You can't be happy with that absolute clanger.

 

[Chicken Run]

Oh I see, that old chestnut. You are the one who admitted posting vociferously.


"....many including me probably wouldn’t be so vociferous on all these threads"


vociferously
/və(ʊ)ˈsɪf(ə)rəsli/
adverb
in a loud and forceful manner.

You can't be happy with that absolute clanger.

Oh dear angry Clampy is back [emoji6]


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[The Clamp]

Oh dear angry Clampy is back [emoji6]


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The "calm down", "you are angry" tactic really is the last refuge of those incapable of debate. It's frankly, weak as ****. Probably best to turn it in babes, you can't be happy with how you 've come across here today.

 

[Chicken Run]

The "calm down", "you are angry" tactic really is the last refuge of those incapable of debate. It's frankly, weak as ****. Probably best to turn it in babes, you can't be happy with how you 've come across here today.

[emoji23] Cheers Clamp, lux


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[The Clamp]

[emoji23] Cheers Clamp, lux


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That’s alright Chicky, we all need a little steer in the right direction sometimes. You’ll get there.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Back on topic...

Ursula von der Leyen’s mess has disgraced Europe

Oh, how we Germans made fun of those strange Brexit birds with the weird Euro-populist Boris Johnson at their head. Marching out of the EU. Ridiculous! Well, they’ll soon see what they’re left with. Without Europe. All alone.

Now we see it. All of us — 83 million Germans, and all of Europe — undersupplied with vaccines, left lagging behind not only the US and Canada but also Britain! Of all the people, it was Johnson who got it right: he ordered vaccines for the British in time, generously and sufficiently. In surplus!

And we? We have done everything wrong and are struggling with a vaccination disaster. Germany, of all countries! Industrial power, clever nation, kings of cleanliness and order. We screwed up. We ordered too little, too late. We were too stingy, too lame. As a result, Poland and Hungary are already wondering what on earth the EU is all about.

In Germany, vaccination appointments for the elderly have had to be cancelled, if they actually got any at all. There is chaos in the land of order. We are confused. Self-doubt leads to anger: we will not have vaccinated 70 per cent of Germans before the autumn. And that is the best-case scenario.

This is devastating on a human level for the people who urgently need the vaccine and for those who will die because they did not get it in time. It’s also devastating on a political level: the US launched the biggest vaccine procurement programme in history last April and the UK started ordering soon after that. Johnson negotiated as tough as nails and paid well for them.

And what did the EU do? It created the biggest confidence-destroying programme in its history. On top of this, Brussels and the governments of the EU states have managed to confirm the old prejudice of a sluggish Europe. Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president, denies all blame. Whistling loudly in the dark and thus damaging even further any confidence in her ability to run the EU. Music to the ears of the populists and anti-democrats.

Von der Leyen started a dispute with the vaccine supplier Astrazeneca, which was supposed to look daredevilish but was just dumb. She has disgraced Europe.

As Germany’s defence minister, she had already failed miserably in the procurement of helicopters, aircraft and weapons. Angela Merkel ordered her away to the European Commission. Just as Europe has been doing for decades with its discarded political personnel: disposed of like nuclear waste in the final repository of Brussels. That is the story that Johnson has told the British again and again. He, the European populist. Now, we agree with him.

Worse still, Von der Leyen has either knowingly lied to 447 million Europeans or didn’t know what she was talking about. Both are intolerable.

The EU’s contract with Astrazeneca reveals that the commission negotiated badly and did not secure any binding rights. It did not do what it is supposed to do: take care of our Europe. And our 27 governments either did not intervene or intervened too late.

The contract with Astrazeneca and the vaccination disaster are a declaration of bankruptcy for Brussels, an indictment of the 27 member states. An insult for us Europeans and especially for convinced Europeans like me. And the fact that we in Germany can only vaccinate at a snail’s pace, that we are left behind by countries like Italy, Bahrain or the United Arab Emirates, is our humiliation. Especially when we look at the island that once belonged to our EU.

It is embarrassing because now we are the fools.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f3c42ae6-6408-11eb-ab68-123bacbc1c7b

 

[The Clamp]

Back on topic...

Ursula von der Leyen’s mess has disgraced Europe

Oh, how we Germans made fun of those strange Brexit birds with the weird Euro-populist Boris Johnson at their head. Marching out of the EU. Ridiculous! Well, they’ll soon see what they’re left with. Without Europe. All alone.

Now we see it. All of us — 83 million Germans, and all of Europe — undersupplied with vaccines, left lagging behind not only the US and Canada but also Britain! Of all the people, it was Johnson who got it right: he ordered vaccines for the British in time, generously and sufficiently. In surplus!

And we? We have done everything wrong and are struggling with a vaccination disaster. Germany, of all countries! Industrial power, clever nation, kings of cleanliness and order. We screwed up. We ordered too little, too late. We were too stingy, too lame. As a result, Poland and Hungary are already wondering what on earth the EU is all about.

In Germany, vaccination appointments for the elderly have had to be cancelled, if they actually got any at all. There is chaos in the land of order. We are confused. Self-doubt leads to anger: we will not have vaccinated 70 per cent of Germans before the autumn. And that is the best-case scenario.

This is devastating on a human level for the people who urgently need the vaccine and for those who will die because they did not get it in time. It’s also devastating on a political level: the US launched the biggest vaccine procurement programme in history last April and the UK started ordering soon after that. Johnson negotiated as tough as nails and paid well for them.

And what did the EU do? It created the biggest confidence-destroying programme in its history. On top of this, Brussels and the governments of the EU states have managed to confirm the old prejudice of a sluggish Europe. Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president, denies all blame. Whistling loudly in the dark and thus damaging even further any confidence in her ability to run the EU. Music to the ears of the populists and anti-democrats.

Von der Leyen started a dispute with the vaccine supplier Astrazeneca, which was supposed to look daredevilish but was just dumb. She has disgraced Europe.

As Germany’s defence minister, she had already failed miserably in the procurement of helicopters, aircraft and weapons. Angela Merkel ordered her away to the European Commission. Just as Europe has been doing for decades with its discarded political personnel: disposed of like nuclear waste in the final repository of Brussels. That is the story that Johnson has told the British again and again. He, the European populist. Now, we agree with him.

Worse still, Von der Leyen has either knowingly lied to 447 million Europeans or didn’t know what she was talking about. Both are intolerable.

The EU’s contract with Astrazeneca reveals that the commission negotiated badly and did not secure any binding rights. It did not do what it is supposed to do: take care of our Europe. And our 27 governments either did not intervene or intervened too late.

The contract with Astrazeneca and the vaccination disaster are a declaration of bankruptcy for Brussels, an indictment of the 27 member states. An insult for us Europeans and especially for convinced Europeans like me. And the fact that we in Germany can only vaccinate at a snail’s pace, that we are left behind by countries like Italy, Bahrain or the United Arab Emirates, is our humiliation. Especially when we look at the island that once belonged to our EU.

It is embarrassing because now we are the fools.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f3c42ae6-6408-11eb-ab68-123bacbc1c7b

Utter catastrophising of a simple foul up.
They’ll get their vaccinations, in time.
Boris did well on this one.
But when all the dust has settled and everyone is vaccinated, he will still have the deaths of thousands on his hands, if not his “conscience”.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Utter catastrophising of a simple foul up.
They’ll get their vaccinations, in time.
Boris did well on this one.
But when all the dust has settled and everyone is vaccinated, he will still have the deaths of thousands on his hands, if not his “conscience”.

Sadly, not true, as explained in the article. Every day, week and month delaying vaccinations costs lives.

But good to see the Uk offering to help our European neighbours.

 

[The Clamp]

Sadly, not true, as explained in the article. Every day, week and month delaying vaccinations costs lives.

But good to see the Uk offering to help our European neighbours.

In time, they will get their vaccinations. To claim they won’t is project fear.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

In time, they will get their vaccinations. To claim they won’t is project fear.

Ah, I see what you meant, yes one day they will eventually get vaccinated, hopefully, a little quicker with our help.

 

[The Clamp]

We need to be focussing on getting everyone vaccinated. Gloating because the EU fouled up, while not unexpected, is very unhelpful.

 

[Is it PotG?]

We need to be focussing on getting everyone vaccinated. Gloating because the EU fouled up, while not unexpected, is very unhelpful.

They threatened to restrict supply to those in need here, out of spite after missing the bus.

That is 'unhelpful' in my book.

 

[The Clamp]

They threatened to restrict supply to those in need here, out of spite after missing the bus.

That is 'unhelpful' in my book.

was a pathetic and dangerous reaction from them. And you loved every second of it.

 

[Is it PotG?]

And you loved every second of it.

How you know these?

 

[The Clamp]

How you know these?

I can read.

Is that a Mexican accent I can hear?

 

[Randy McNob]

Utter catastrophising of a simple foul up.
They’ll get their vaccinations, in time.
Boris did well on this one.
But when all the dust has settled and everyone is vaccinated, he will still have the deaths of thousands on his hands, if not his “conscience”.

I'll reserve judgement, 1 swallow does not a summer make, and it's not like he excelled over and above anyone else, it would have happened whoever was in charge

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day

 

[Is it PotG?]

I can read.

Is that a Mexican accent I can hear?

Those saying 'Leavers will love this error, pushes back any chance of rejoining' when it simply shows why folks voted to leave in the first place. The attitude contained in one mighty action could not have emphasised their bullying, bureaucratic boneheadedness anymore.

You couldn't, to coin a well used phrase in these pages, make it up.

 

[The Clamp]

I'll reserve judgement, 1 swallow does not a summer make, and it's not like he excelled over and above anyone else, it would have happened whoever was in charge

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day

Good point. I sometimes get carried away. It’s probably because Britain has turned into a shit show in the past five years, they get one thing right and I get a bit excited.