Trufflehound
Re-enfranchised
Your constant vindictiveness towards anyone or anything that you dislike is incredibly tiresome, but is not unsurprising from you.
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EU and AstraZeneca
- Thread starter Neville's Breakfast
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Your constant vindictiveness towards anyone or anything that you dislike is incredibly tiresome, but is not unsurprising from you.
Your location somewhat gives away your agenda. Assuming you are where you say you are, good luck getting a jab because your leaders have right royaly fvcked you over.
Neville's Breakfast
Well-known member
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My understanding is that the UK is not and never has been beholden to the EU over drug approvals and use. Drugs are approved in the UK by the MHRA (Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency). To save money, most licence applications were done on a Europe-wide basis through the European agency (EMA) but this is and never was a legal requirement, with the MHRA having full ability to consider applications for licences for use in the UK by itself.
So this spat has nothing to do with Brexit, and 'The EU' is making a bit of a prat of itself in this instance. Just like they have over many other issues in the past. Not enough for me to want to leave the EU, though. The argument that the EU stops the UK from doing this and that is, and always was, total bollocks. The UK follows the EU over non-core issues out of choice, not compulsion. For example we always had control over migration from outside the EU, but chose to let hoards of people in.
Fake news again
I’m not sure I agree that this is fake news. There is a Robert Peston quote elsewhere in the thread that covers the timeline. It seems clear that Germany, France etc wanted to place vaccine orders themselves but were over ruled by the EU. It is difficult to believe we could have gone it alone if Germany could not. Were we still members it is likely that we would have the vaccines approved (as per your post) but not have available supplies as we would be subject to EU quotas (on population) and production delays caused by the same issues the EU now face. I am not trying to present some sort of hindsight reason for Brexit. All the arguments for and against have been aired elsewhere. The current story won’t tip that balance either way but nevertheless Brexit has played its part in the vaccine story in both the UK and the EU.
Similar feelings - I'm 100% a Remainer, but from everything I've read the EU seem to have f*cked up hugely here - the EU Health Commissioner seems a particularly bitter individual, who is no doubt flailing around trying to blame everyone but herself.
banjo
GOSBTS
I see they’ve raided the Belgium factory today.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/28/astrazeneca-vaccine-site-belgium-raided-request-european-commission/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/28/astrazeneca-vaccine-site-belgium-raided-request-european-commission/
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
This fact check says 'Europe invested billions to help develop the world's first COVID-19 vaccines and create a global demand."
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-astrazeneca-in-breach-of-its-eu-contract/a-56360480
Another Remainer in complete agreement here - The EU have ****ed this one up massively. Their issues have absolutely nothing to do with us and it's poor form trying to drag us into it.
This Tory Gov have made massive **** up after massive **** up over the past year, but on vaccines they have played an absolute blinder. No question.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Paywalled.
Raiding their production facility FFS.. should be getting behind them not pissing them off. Hardly going to endear themselves to Astra Zenneca !!
Granny on the wing
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- Sep 7, 2019
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Looking at the bigger picture a lot of Country`s in the world cannot afford Vaccinations ,only 25 people vaccinated in Africa i saw in an article the other day .189 countries have signed up to the Covax initiative which is supported by WHO so they will have more power to negotiate with drug companies .The Vaccines will paid for by a fund sponsored by donors. The UK donated half a billion dollars to this fund . The US and Russia are among the few countries that are not contributing. But for now ,the scheme will only cover 20% of a country`s population. Lets hope the UK and the EU will try and help the rest of the world, could be a while yet .Canada has secured enough Vaccines to vaccinate its entire population five times !
Actually the fact checker doesn't say that. It says that "Europe invested billions to help develop the world's first COVID-19 vaccines and create a global demand" was said by European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen!!
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
Trufflehound
Re-enfranchised
You really ought to try calming down
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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im afraid the fact check only repeats a claim, not substantiated or specific to AZ. the reported purchase agreement in August was for €336m.
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
I'm convinced that in the end once there's a surplus everyone (in the 1st world) will chip in to get developing nations vaccinated. It's absolutely not in our interests to let this fester and mutate into strains which are less treatable.
At the moment the vaccines are hot off the press, they literally can't make it fast enough.
Going very slow over here. You'd imagine that in a dirty, corrupt world AstraZeneca being half Swedish would have given some kind of dirty corrupt advantage but nopes...
Anyway, EU is junk. The main reason a lot of people are pro-EU is not because its great, but because the loudest anti-EU voices are more often than not idiots. If people cared less about who says what and more about the subject itself, feck knows if anyone else than the neoliberals really would like to be part of it.
Anyway, EU is junk. The main reason a lot of people are pro-EU is not because its great, but because the loudest anti-EU voices are more often than not idiots. If people cared less about who says what and more about the subject itself, feck knows if anyone else than the neoliberals really would like to be part of it.
I hope so too, when I was on firefighting duty’s in the Navy you put your BA on first then give others the assist they need[emoji106]
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