No i don't think it will be a representative cross section. It will be biased heavily towards the trots. However that is partly due to far right sympathisers like yourself trying to portray any opposition to these fascists as the work of the swp.
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English National Alliance to march on Brighton
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No i don't think it will be a representative cross section. It will be biased heavily towards the trots. However that is partly due to far right sympathisers like yourself trying to portray any opposition to these fascists as the work of the swp.
bhaexpress
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Oh I see, so as I point forward a valid point I'm now a neo Nazi ? Oh dear, how pathetic, tell me, was your mother scared by a politically correct pamphlet when you was pregnant with you ?
Oh I see, so as I point forward a valid point I'm now a neo Nazi ? Oh dear, how pathetic, tell me, was your mother scared by a politically correct pamphlet when you was pregnant with you ?
See there you go again, you cant help yourself can you.
sammy g
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I think making a stand against extremists who claim to represent the "indigenous majority" in this country does not have to fall along political lines i.e right v left. After all, Churchill the classic Tory boy had a bit of issue with some more notorious and better organised fascists then the ENA, EDL or the BNP. I think the more people who attend the anti ENA protest from across the political spectrum the better. It shows them the country rejects their views not just a politically motivated few.
bhaexpress
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Oh you are an angry and misguided child, give 'my mates' of the ENL a wave from me.
daveinprague
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The Éngland these people march for is not an England I recognise, and im 55. There is no, and never was an England that these idiots are marching for. Its an ill cloaked fascist march designed to foster racial hatred. Its nothing to do with pride for England, and I believe that people who support them know that as well.
Milton Keynes Seagull
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Why is it a "fascist" march? Do you really think the people taking part have any idea of the concept of the corporate state, let alone trying to make the trains run on time.
All patriots are deemed "fascists", by those who themselves employ typical "fascist" tactics like attacking opponents, breaking up meetings and smearing and harrassing anyone who crosses their path. By the way I'm 55 next month.
daveinprague
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Patriots?
Thanks for cheering my day up anyway. That made laugh.
Thanks for cheering my day up anyway. That made laugh.
Lord Bracknell
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Not at all. It's just that the propaganda theme of the English National Alliance ("marching in defence of our right to be English") is a very long standing theme of English fascism that goes back at least as far as the anti-Jewish marches of the 1930s.
Milton Keynes Seagull
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I wasn't referring to people in this organization specifically, that is why I used the inclusive term "all". I was of course referring to the term being used by the far left and many liberals to smear anyone who proclaims themselves to be patriotic. You remember those tiresome student cretins in the 70s that used to shout "fascists" at the rozzers?
Milton Keynes Seagull
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I refer the honourable member to the post I made some moments ago.
Billy Bragg calls himself a patriot, but I have never heard anyone call him a fascist.
daveinprague
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Yep, and I remember the North Stand singing... Harry Roberts is our friend, he kills coppers...in the 70s
I remember the 'patriots' fighting the police as well on many occassions in the 70s.
The police are where they are supposed to be. In the middle. Thats one of their jobs whether we or they like it or not, and
because of this they have been, and always will be subject to abuse by one side of an argument against another.
I remember the 'patriots' fighting the police as well on many occassions in the 70s.
The police are where they are supposed to be. In the middle. Thats one of their jobs whether we or they like it or not, and
because of this they have been, and always will be subject to abuse by one side of an argument against another.
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Milton Keynes Seagull
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Good point Kieran, by the way how are you these days? Remember Do I Not Know That!?
The Merry Prankster
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I always wonder why the left think that anti racism is their preserve when in my experience it is more closely linked with intelligence than where people stand politically (extremist nutters excluded).
Lord Bracknell
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I agree that it is important that "fascism" is properly identified and not confused with something that is not fascism.
My point is that the English National Alliance takes its slogan from earlier, overtly fascist organisations. If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
Good point Kieran, by the way how are you these days? Remember Do I Not Know That!?
I'm good, I recall the show well. I seem to have an anti midas touch when it comes to television, as I worked on the Channel M breakfast show for two years before the channel was closed down last April, and then wrote and appeared in the promo shows for Accountancy TV (True!) and that died a death too!
The guy who presented Do I Not Know That runs a bicycle shop I seem to recall!
Milton Keynes Seagull
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Well let me try this one with you. You are fortunate enough to live in Prague a city that was first occupied by real fascists from March 1939 and from 1945 by the Communists. The people who resisted both were what I call the real Czech patriots, simply wanting control over their own country, preserving their own culture in their ancestral homeland.
Have you visited the Church of St Cyril & Methodius? That is what I call a momument to patriotism.
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Milton Keynes Seagull
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It was patriotism and indeed nationalist sentiments that beat the Nazis in 1945 and overthrew the communists in 1989.
Lord Bracknell
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And it was a perverted nationalistic "patriotism" that fueled the rise of the nazis in the 1930s.
Don't let the likes of the English National Alliance get away with a similar distortion of the language. What they mean by "Englishness" is something quite different from the rest of us.