pastafarian
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well spotted but i dont think you will get very far,he has told porkies on here already,the truth doesnt seem to bother him
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Does anyone think we might be close to a revolution?
- Thread starter Falmer
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Nibble
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- Jan 3, 2007
- 19,238
at best you sound like Adrian Mole, at worst you sound like life is going to deal you a rather disappointing hand dear boy. Anyway, who paid for the technology you are using now? It was boffins getting paid who created many of the things your generation takes for granted. You can use your mind anyway you want to, as you mature you will realise that. Young uns have been predicting a revolution since the 50's, all the same ideas your mind is brimming over with have been though of a million times before. In my day it was hedge monkeys with dreadlocks doing a year in Goa then returning to Tooting, trading their sandals and hemp clothing in for a donkey jacket, go and live in a squat 3 roads away from Mum's house and listen to Neds Atomic Dustbin before showering, growing the f*** up, earning some money and enjoyingh life a bit more.
Stop getting pierced, nobody's listening.
del strangefish
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Joey Deacon's Disco Suit
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- Apr 19, 2010
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I was tempted to point out as well that the flaw in his belief that Empiricism is the ultimate truth is that it kind of rubbishes his bold assertions about history but he's talking bollocks anyway so I decided just to leave it.
Nibble
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- Jan 3, 2007
- 19,238
But when no laws exist people do what they want? Fine if you are a peaceloving fella with a head full of magic and unicorns. What about rapists and theives and those who wish ill to others or do they not fit into your magic world?
readingstockport
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Good spot Joey D's suit. I'd not bothered reading any more of his posts so had not noticed that little gem.
18 and so experienced already in the world to tell all we 50 year olds, who have possibly been around the block a few more times than he has, have possibly experienced a bit more life than he has and who have almost certainly spoken to more johhny foreigners than he has that we have got it ALL so wrong.
18 and so experienced already in the world to tell all we 50 year olds, who have possibly been around the block a few more times than he has, have possibly experienced a bit more life than he has and who have almost certainly spoken to more johhny foreigners than he has that we have got it ALL so wrong.
Well Falmer's made me chuckle. There's a big real world out there, one day I repeat one day he'll find himself a big grown up person in it and then he may look back and realize what a pillock he is.
Norman Potting
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In answer to the actual question posed by the thread about being close to a revolution, I think we are really, really close to one just up the road.
Surely everyone in Croydon is already revolting?
Surely everyone in Croydon is already revolting?
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
- 21,641
Suspect Falmer has watched one too many youtube video's.
RexCathedra
Aurea Mediocritas
The level of immiseration you have is nothing like it was in the '30's and that didn't change the country, not basically.
You didn't even get a Labour government in till '45.
You didn't even get a Labour government in till '45.
Holmesdale_Lad
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- Sep 28, 2011
- 116
If I may pop my two cents in...
I genuinely believe we could be. When the riots first started on the Saturday up in Tottenham, I remember watching it on the tele, seeing the demonstrators pounding the Police with all sorts of weaponry, and sat there - as bad as it sounds - getting a touch excited, thinking we could be about to see things take off to show those who oppress the youngsters and working classes in this country that we've had enough. Had they (the Police) killed someone with those rubber bullets, I do think all Hell would have broken loose.
Instead, sadly, but yet a damming showing of this country's attitudes, it just turned to yoofs and chavs trying to fulfill their materialistic lusts and take all they can, destroying their communities in the process. By the end the ***** didn't care who they hurt, only caring about the PS3 they picked up.
But, certainly around my way, there is a tension bubbling under. People, particularly my age - late teens - are sick of being oppressed - no jobs, higher taxes, no banks giving loans to allow us to start up (own homes, cars etc), police treating us like muck.
I do genuinely believe it could take one little incident, one flashpoint, and the frustration and anger will come out. I just hope to f***ing God it doesn't turn into the same thieving little shits trying to line their pockets as happened in August, if there is another set of demo's in this country, that it MEANS something.
I genuinely believe we could be. When the riots first started on the Saturday up in Tottenham, I remember watching it on the tele, seeing the demonstrators pounding the Police with all sorts of weaponry, and sat there - as bad as it sounds - getting a touch excited, thinking we could be about to see things take off to show those who oppress the youngsters and working classes in this country that we've had enough. Had they (the Police) killed someone with those rubber bullets, I do think all Hell would have broken loose.
Instead, sadly, but yet a damming showing of this country's attitudes, it just turned to yoofs and chavs trying to fulfill their materialistic lusts and take all they can, destroying their communities in the process. By the end the ***** didn't care who they hurt, only caring about the PS3 they picked up.
But, certainly around my way, there is a tension bubbling under. People, particularly my age - late teens - are sick of being oppressed - no jobs, higher taxes, no banks giving loans to allow us to start up (own homes, cars etc), police treating us like muck.
I do genuinely believe it could take one little incident, one flashpoint, and the frustration and anger will come out. I just hope to f***ing God it doesn't turn into the same thieving little shits trying to line their pockets as happened in August, if there is another set of demo's in this country, that it MEANS something.
Oh look, the other one!
Pray tell, what do you have against people working 9-5?
contemplate for yourself why someone else should tell you when to work, what to do, when to play, and when to eat.......come to your own conclusions.
Thought about it... It's because that person has had the drive and ambition to set up their own business, something I am yet to have managed. I'm glad they did to be honest. I work 9-5.30, earn reasonable money, own a nice flat, go on nice holidays and have travelled loads, get 27 days holiday a year, have a half decent pension and I don't hate going to work every day.
What, exactly is so bad about that, and what am I supposed to be complaining about?
So you would rather live in a world with no education, manufacturing, finance etc as all these things rely on people working together not when they like. I have come to my own conclusion - you're barking.
Don't worry teenagers always feel like that and always have. You'll grow out of it.
NMH
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Cameron is apparently taking a bold protective and demanding stance in EU treaty meetings, to the point of being regarded as a revolter himself.
Now, what this might mean, is that he knows that Britain acceding anything to the EEC treaty will risk us falling over a precipice that the UK are already hanging over (which has not been broadcast but who knows at the moment?), or .....that he is leaning toward Britain withdrawing from the Common Market altogether.
His record so far suggests that he's not letting things be by sitting back and letting things just happen - and I don't think he has that luxury either in this present climate.
The malcontents in Britain are often those who have not worked, do not pull their weight, live off the system and are upset to see that possibility recede, or have lost their jobs.
I can only really sympathize with the latter group. The blaming of immigrants has surely to be seen as dodgy ground now that Britons have migrated away too - and it's a grey area for racists to occupy anyway - and not many want to mix with them in the 21st century surely.
Maybe Britain revolting from the faltering EEC will distract our own union from the dangers of home turmoil.
Perhaps it's time Britain became Rule Britannia again and stood firmer than the flawed people we've allowed to sway our resolve - get away from the proven failures of US war-games and attempts to make small countries obey their will, and not be in a union that allows member 'organs' to lie about their condition and infect the whole body.
Now, what this might mean, is that he knows that Britain acceding anything to the EEC treaty will risk us falling over a precipice that the UK are already hanging over (which has not been broadcast but who knows at the moment?), or .....that he is leaning toward Britain withdrawing from the Common Market altogether.
His record so far suggests that he's not letting things be by sitting back and letting things just happen - and I don't think he has that luxury either in this present climate.
The malcontents in Britain are often those who have not worked, do not pull their weight, live off the system and are upset to see that possibility recede, or have lost their jobs.
I can only really sympathize with the latter group. The blaming of immigrants has surely to be seen as dodgy ground now that Britons have migrated away too - and it's a grey area for racists to occupy anyway - and not many want to mix with them in the 21st century surely.
Maybe Britain revolting from the faltering EEC will distract our own union from the dangers of home turmoil.
Perhaps it's time Britain became Rule Britannia again and stood firmer than the flawed people we've allowed to sway our resolve - get away from the proven failures of US war-games and attempts to make small countries obey their will, and not be in a union that allows member 'organs' to lie about their condition and infect the whole body.
readingstockport
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You've never been in one I guess. They are fun, I was in Trafalgar Square for the poll tax, and I have also been present at a few others - often after punk gigs (mainly Conflict of course) but they are definately not the precursor to revolution. Most people who rioted in those days, and those who rioted recently, went home afterwards turned on their tellys and had something to eat. Then they went to bed and slept in a nice warm bed. Those are not the catalysts that lead to revolution I assure you.
Take away the food for a week and you will see real violence in the streets but all the authorities would need to do to stop any rioting would be to give out free food on the 3rd day. You will all take it, go home and switch on the playstation - I promise you.
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beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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firstly, what plastic bullets? bit of false memory starting there.
this tells us alot about our current society and how far we are from revolution when people thinkg they are being oppressed due to lack of jobs, high taxes and no bank loans to buy houses and cars. we had a flash point right there in Tottenham, you dont even mention the original cause (ppolice shooting a local chap), it was all about the violent consumerism.
Seagull kimchi
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I'd like to see America have this revolution first. The inequality there is staggering. The corporations there are really taking the piss.