[Misc] COVIDIOTS hot spots

[Neville's Breakfast]

You paint a picture of everyone ...in my experience it’s not like that.

Just going on what people are saying about non compliance in supermarkets. Government talking about it as are the supermarkets themselves judging by the e mail sent out by the top man at Sainsbury’s yesterday. I don’t have any personal experience as I don’t think they are worth the risk. It just seems to me that the reported issues are easily solved with a less wishy washy approach.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Just going on what people are saying about non compliance in supermarkets. Government talking about it as are the supermarkets themselves judging by the e mail sent out by the top man at Sainsbury’s yesterday. I don’t have any personal experience as I don’t think they are worth the risk. It just seems to me that the reported issues are easily solved with a less wishy washy approach.

That’s fair enough....but you know what it’s like about reports....don’t always tell the whole picture ...some decision making at the mo seems to be on the back of social media pressure (maybe that’s a false impression)....all I can say for my own experience it’s not like that....but then I don’t live in a densely populated city ..and where it maybe totally different.

Just to add Tescos employed ‘marshals’ back in April last year...just added to the confusion of trying to follow the arrows...look at your list..find the item you wanted and keep two metres apart

 

[HalfaSeatOn]

The home.shopping pickers wind me up. Many a time.ive had to wait whilst there are 2 or 3 of them blocking an aisle. When I was in retail I would've been expected to move aside for a customer rather than expect them to wait

It could be argued they are customers - by proxy

 

[GT49er]

The problem is there are broadly two groups of people who won't wear masks...

1. Those who have a genuine exemption, and would likely have proof of that, and be polite and courteous.
2. Anti-mask wankers, who are spoiling for a fight. The "Don't have to wear one - got an exemption ain't I?" crowd. By way of coincidence, many of these are the aggressive sorts that, frankly, a minimum wage security guard, who is secure in name only, would not want to be challenging and mixing with. And I don't blame them.

Quite. And a confrontation between a security guard and a non-mask wearing lout is pretty close contact, with a very high risk of transmission. That's asking a lot of some poor sod on minimum wage who's had no choice but to take the job because his normal work has packed up.

It's the right move but seemingly won't be backed up by the Police:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...d-say-they-wont-enforce-masks-in-supermarkets

Very disappointing response from senior police officers there, as out of touch with the people as they can be. Of course they can't provide a couple of coppers, 24/7, for each supermarket, but they can regularly call in. If they've got the resources to send van loads of police to country parks (a nice day out for the lads) to arrest walkers, they can redeploy them to the supermarkets.
They'll be involved there anyway if confrontations with security guards and chav louts turn physical (and when they do they'll probably arrest the security guard anyway; idiots). If only we had a home secretary who would bully these reluctant to co-operate police chiefs ...............

 

[Chicken Run]

It could be argued they are customers - by proxy

Each picker often is picking for several customers.


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[Weststander]

....those in [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] ‘s second group won’t bother to do it, so the distinction is clear.

My son’s GF is exempt but in places like supermarkets she’s still wearing one anyway - partly for protection or herself and others and partly to avoid the hassle/glares for not wearing one.

Supermarkets should ideally be able to flatly refuse entry (backed up by police if necessary) to non-wearers without exemptions, but understand the problems with trying to enforce this and the ensuing aggro that a few selfish arrogant morons will cause.

We’ve got a few ‘speed awareness’ police groups set up around Burgess Hill this morning checking traffic. I’d rather they put a copper on the door of each of the major supermarkets at this point in time.

This.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

So called mask exemptions, wearing a mask will not hurt you and if it does then wear a chuffing visor, amazing how suddenly so many have breathing problems.

And if any statement highlights the sheer ignorance of some then this one does. The exemptions cover far more than just breathing problems.

 

[Weststander]

The problem is there are broadly two groups of people who won't wear masks...

1. Those who have a genuine exemption, and would likely have proof of that, and be polite and courteous.
2. Anti-mask wankers, who are spoiling for a fight. The "Don't have to wear one - got an exemption ain't I?" crowd. By way of coincidence, many of these are the aggressive sorts that, frankly, a minimum wage security guard, who is secure in name only, would not want to be challenging and mixing with. And I don't blame them.

Inside stores, one-way systems should be in place - they were removed far too readily from the two stores I use.

Waitrose, Hove throughout have engaged external security guards on the door. Big blokes, the type that manage events. A couple at a time from March onwards, I guess originally to oversee the queue and stop queue jumpers. Tailing off to just one in recent months.

Not sure if it's a coincidence or not, but in my experience all customers appear to wear a mask properly.

Shirley Tesco's, Sainsbury's and ASDA can afford to bring in a couple of security guards from outside agencies. They've all had blinding financial results.

 

[CheeseRolls]

And if any statement highlights the sheer ignorance of some then this one does. The exemptions cover far more than just breathing problems.

Fair point, but bearing in mind one of the main points of wearing a mask is to avoid infecting others. Is there not a responsibility on the person with the exemption avoiding whereever possible being in a situation, where they could infect others?

 

[hoof hearted]

Quite. And a confrontation between a security guard and a non-mask wearing lout is pretty close contact, with a very high risk of transmission. That's asking a lot of some poor sod on minimum wage who's had no choice but to take the job because his normal work has packed up.


Very disappointing response from senior police officers there, as out of touch with the people as they can be. Of course they can't provide a couple of coppers, 24/7, for each supermarket, but they can regularly call in. If they've got the resources to send van loads of police to country parks (a nice day out for the lads) to arrest walkers, they can redeploy them to the supermarkets.
They'll be involved there anyway if confrontations with security guards and chav louts turn physical (and when they do they'll probably arrest the security guard anyway; idiots). If only we had a home secretary who would bully these reluctant to co-operate police chiefs ...............

The Government could have come up with tighter restrictions last year and enforced them with clear and stricter penalties. But they didn't. Now we see they go hard on the softer targets while using ambiguous guidelines to do so. It's an absolute circus, a bunch of clowns running the country and a bunch of monkeys on bicycles policing it.

 

[GT49er]

Fair point, but bearing in mind one of the main points of wearing a mask is to avoid infecting others. Is there not a responsibility on the person with the exemption avoiding whereever possible being in a situation, where they could infect others?

Exactly - cancel all exemptions. If you can't/won't wear a mask, don't go shopping - make alternative arrangements.

 

[GT49er]

The Government could have come up with tighter restrictions last year and enforced them with clear and stricter penalties. But they didn't. Now we see they go hard on the softer targets while using ambiguous guidelines to do so. It's an absolute circus, a bunch of clowns running the country and a bunch of monkeys on bicycles policing it.

To be fair, it's the police that are choosing to hit on softer targets - as they nearly always do - not the government.

 

[Is it PotG?]

The Government could have come up with tighter restrictions last year and enforced them with clear and stricter penalties. But they didn't. Now we see they go hard on the softer targets while using ambiguous guidelines to do so. It's an absolute circus, a bunch of clowns running the country and a bunch of monkeys on bicycles policing it.

 

[hoof hearted]

To be fair, it's the police that are choosing to hit on softer targets - as they nearly always do - not the government.

Yeah that's true. But the Government should still make the guidlines clearer (both to the public and to the police). I don't even understand why people were allowed to travel abroad last year on holiday if we were in the middle of a serious pandemic. Why not just shut the borders like New Zealand have done? Did the Government really expect people were going to self isolate after coming back from holiday? Even Boris's own father didn't bother, pleading ignorance. As for all those house parties last year where police just dispersed people (probably into a crowd outside) instead of issuing fines, what message does that send? That's a lot worse than going for a walk in a park with hardly anyone around. As for the Government putting infected patients in care homes, I wouldn't be surprised if that's accounted for almost half the total deaths. I'm sure the public inquiry into that will be like a Graham Potter post match interview (lessons learned etc). And sending kids back to school when in tier 4.. the list of stupid decisions goes on.

I think I need to go for a walk and get some fresh air!

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I'm old, but not old enough to know what that means!

 

[RossyG]

It’s Robert Lindsay as Citizen Smith, a far superior sitcom to Only Fool’s and Horses from the same writer.

 

[schmunk]

The home.shopping pickers wind me up. Many a time.ive had to wait whilst there are 2 or 3 of them blocking an aisle. When I was in retail I would've been expected to move aside for a customer rather than expect them to wait

My Tesco home shopping comes from a specialised Delivery Centre, not a retail store - somewhere in Crawley, I believe.

 

[GT49er]

Yeah that's true. But the Government should still make the guidlines clearer (both to the public and to the police). I don't even understand why people were allowed to travel abroad last year on holiday if we were in the middle of a serious pandemic. Why not just shut the borders like New Zealand have done? Did the Government really expect people were going to self isolate after coming back from holiday? Even Boris's own father didn't bother, pleading ignorance. As for all those house parties last year where police just dispersed people (probably into a crowd outside) instead of issuing fines, what message does that send? That's a lot worse than going for a walk in a park with hardly anyone around. As for the Government putting infected patients in care homes, I wouldn't be surprised if that's accounted for almost half the total deaths. I'm sure the public inquiry into that will be like a Graham Potter post match interview (lessons learned etc). And sending kids back to school when in tier 4.. the list of stupid decisions goes on.

Oh, I don't disagree that there should have been more enforcement - and stricter rules for people who still wanted to swan off to foreign parts to acquire a more interesting version of the virus. My post was purely about the police targeting soft options - I'm sure they'd rather tackle two polite ladies alone in a country park than tackle a violent thug who's refusing to wear a mask, with a load of thuggish mates supporting him.

 

[PTC Gull]

Canada has idiots as well..........https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55631198

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

It’s Robert Lindsay as Citizen Smith, a far superior sitcom to Only Fool’s and Horses from the same writer.

Ok Wolfie or as Florence would say Foxy

 

[zefarelly]

Yeah that's true. But the Government should still make the guidlines clearer (both to the public and to the police). I don't even understand why people were allowed to travel abroad last year on holiday if we were in the middle of a serious pandemic. Why not just shut the borders like New Zealand have done? Did the Government really expect people were going to self isolate after coming back from holiday? Even Boris's own father didn't bother, pleading ignorance. As for all those house parties last year where police just dispersed people (probably into a crowd outside) instead of issuing fines, what message does that send? That's a lot worse than going for a walk in a park with hardly anyone around. As for the Government putting infected patients in care homes, I wouldn't be surprised if that's accounted for almost half the total deaths. I'm sure the public inquiry into that will be like a Graham Potter post match interview (lessons learned etc). And sending kids back to school when in tier 4.. the list of stupid decisions goes on.

I think I need to go for a walk and get some fresh air!


I'm old, but not old enough to know what that means!

I'm not 'old' but I used to watch it. High quality TV, not often seen these days.