[Misc] COVIDIOTS hot spots

[Weststander]

I’m still working and have throughout ...sorry about that

And you’re allowed to. Virtually no transmission risk, your wealthy clients can transfer oodles of cash to your bank account.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Had a full blown tantrum from our 5 year old yesterday after one video class call. He doesn't see why he's here whilst 20 (I kid you not) of his classmates are sat at school

On the flip side my grandsons class has been decimated (not at school) including all the friends he made when he started last September..he’s at school because his Mum is a teacher ....she is splitting her time between ‘teaching’ those in school and doing a video link with those not....a lot of the little ones clearly confused and withdrawn by what’s happening

 

[LamieRobertson]

And you’re allowed to. Virtually no transmission risk, your wealthy clients can transfer oodles of cash to your bank account.

LOL....ye I am allowed...and not just that, I made a risk assessment of my own.....now tell me these wealthy clients ..oh ye they are the ones who are slow to pay!

 

[Bry Nylon]

Had a full blown tantrum from our 5 year old yesterday after one video class call. He doesn't see why he's here whilst 20 (I kid you not) of his classmates are sat at school

There were 7 kids in total attending my kids’ primary school in lockdown 1 whilst everyone else binned off the home schooling after 1 week and decide to give their kids a more rounded education that involved paddling pools, bike rides and bbqs.

Now they have 70+ attending.

 

[zefarelly]

I’m still working and have throughout ...sorry about that

Me too, in an office!!! but with plenty of precaution . . . . Something hundreds of kids crammed together can't do . . . We had builder over summer, all outside . . . Now we're one at a time to finish shower room etc . . .

 

[LamieRobertson]

Me too, in an office!!! but with plenty of precaution . . . . Something hundreds of kids crammed together can't do . . . We had builder over summer, all outside . . . Now we're one at a time to finish shower room etc . . .

Risk assessment...sounds good

 

[Pogue Mahone]

And talking about schools - my son's school had 50 kids in during Lockdown 1. Now they have 250. Based on what I heard on 5Live yesterday, I think this is broadly representative of the situation across the country, where our supposedly closed schools have 40-50% of children still attending.

I don't think this is due to people just wanting to get the kids out of the house every day, but more reflective of the number of people who are continuing to work for a number of reasons.

Mrs Bozza is a key worker, and it would be far more convenient for me if Bozza jnr was in school each day, but he's not going to be.

More people at work + more kids in school = more viral spread = more deaths.

Yes, there are many more children in the school where I teach. I have been in teaching all this week, and it feels a bit like playing Russian Roulette.

Thankfully, I am working from home for the next couple of weeks.

I hope that your school is more on the ball than last time - we certainly are, with video teaching and real time teaching throughout the week.

I won't be leaving the house until I have to go back in.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The 'key worker' line must be the widest greyest line in history

E services, medical / care staff yes, obviously, a daft example is me. We have a letter from BP at work . . .they have been designated an essential service ( fuels) and we are one of their key suppliers, We have a letter from them telling us we must continue trading to maintain their supply/service. SOme of What we do is an important but small part of the big chain, without our kit tankers wouldn't fill at depots and then no fuel in stations, so To the letter of the law I'm a key worker, but come on. No ones gonna miss me over a nurse, paramedic or a fireman.

Where I work, there is an element of our management who imagine we are key workers, because they want us on campus teaching students for their own reasone (fear that students will demand their fees back, mostly, it seems). However, the official line, now, is only key health professional students (medics, dentists....then it gets a bit vague) need to be tought on campus. There was clear ambiguity about science (no medic) students. Although on campus teaching for them is binned till March, we may be asked to provide on campus teaching after March. During a single term, I can see it happening. But it will mean rewriting the curriculum at the last minute. I will resist it but I find it stupid and stressful (it grates with my mental make up, although I am a tad 'special' being 'on the spectrum'; other colleagues are more phlegmatic and run about doing what they are bid, not matter how foolish).

Sorry but I blame HMG and the butterfly leadership over this. Sadly some of my colleagues are wallowing in the extra hours the repeated changes have predicated. I think they think it justifies their existence/employment. Me? I hate futility and undertaking work that is obviously doomed to be binned. I like a proper plan that takes account of contingency.

Anyway, I'm getting het up today so best I bow out for a bit. I wish everyone a decent day

 

[Weststander]

Indeed.

And thinking about it, after [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION]'s reply to my somewhat emotional post this morning, I still don't understand why HMG can't bring in some tough temporary rules and enforce them. And if protecting the over 55s is too expensive then make it the over 65s. Better than nothing. At some point there is a sweet spot between the best cut off age to protect and the amount of economic impact. And as for their mixing at home, etc, a mate of mine's wife has cancer so whenever he has to have outside contact he isolates in doors for 2 weeks. Where there is a will there is a way. There are workarounds. Won't work for chavs and gammon, of course. And I accept that no other country is doing exactly what I suggested, but that's neither here nor there; most other countries are more racist and sexist than the UK, that doesn't mean we should not bother with trying to do better, ourselves.

So I still think HMG are making avoidable poor decisions. The fact of the matter is our cases and deaths are worse than most if not all comparable nations, and that is down to HMG. We should be doing better and we could be.

HMG have failed imho, as I look back, due to its libertarian ethos. For all the other slagging off of HMG, I think the quasi libertarian approach was and is THE underlying cause of the avoidable cases and deaths.

Masks, once the WHO changed their advice in May, should’ve been mandatory indoors outside the home. In law, not rules. With shops etc mandated in law to enforce that.

With exemption letters issued online by the authorities or by doctors, as Italy did in Lockdown 1.

Restaurants - where multi family groups broke the rules, by lying. The numbers should’ve been lower per table, backed by ID and home address.

In essence laws enforced with fines, not rules.

This would’ve been more achievable than track n trace. Germany was hailed as amazing on that front, but their system has been overwhelmed for ages, the virus out of control.

 

[BLOCK F]

People shouldn't be meeting, end of.

Even before Covid struck, loads of people were being killed by other viruses. We can't just let that continue like we used to. Once covid19 gets controlled better, I really do hope we stick with this new normal approach of everyone staying indoors at all time, so we never go back to the old ways when people were catching flues, colds and now Covid19 whilst everyone else just went about their business not giving a toss. It took for Covid for us to realise we can't ever live like that again. This new way is so much safer, it makes you realise how stupid we all were back in the old days. We socialise on forums/social media now so there's really no need to go out in the future for risk taking fun. I'm actually really enjoying watching football on the TV so I definitely won't ever be going back to the Amex again and I do hope most people on here feel the same now they know how dangerous those forms of entertainment were.

You cannot be serious.

 

[atomised]

Yes, there are many more children in the school where I teach. I have been in teaching all this week, and it feels a bit like playing Russian Roulette.

Thankfully, I am working from home for the next couple of weeks.

I hope that your school is more on the ball than last time - we certainly are, with video teaching and real time teaching throughout the week.

I won't be leaving the house until I have to go back in.

Our kids school is certainly more on the ball. Thankfully in some ways they had a 2 week closure in November and got the video teaching sorted then so this week has worked brilliantly. Each of them is having 3 to 4 teacher contacts per day

 

[Superseagull]

Traffic seems as busy as any other Saturday in recent months. Where is everyone going This Lockdown v3.0 ain’t working Boris.

My sister is deputy head at a school in London. Numbers of ‘key worker kids’ are x4 the numbers in March. She knows for a fact many parents are taking the piss but what can schools do? This lockdown needs to be taken more seriously otherwise many more thousands will be dead in the coming months.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Our kids school is certainly more on the ball. Thankfully in some ways they had a 2 week closure in November and got the video teaching sorted then so this week has worked brilliantly. Each of them is having 3 to 4 teacher contacts per day

Yes, we have had to learn all sorts of new skills very quickly. Hopefully, now we feel more confident and on top of it, things will be easier from this point on.

 

[Bozza]

Yes, there are many more children in the school where I teach. I have been in teaching all this week, and it feels a bit like playing Russian Roulette.

Thankfully, I am working from home for the next couple of weeks.

I hope that your school is more on the ball than last time - we certainly are, with video teaching and real time teaching throughout the week.

I won't be leaving the house until I have to go back in.

The kids had a one-hour video thing yesterday morning. I won't really call it a lesson - it was more about seeing the face and hearing the voices of their classmates.

I think the school are intending to do more as the weeks progress, but I'm not too fussed either way as I have no doubt they are doing the very best they can, particularly given the number of kids they have on site and how that stretches the teaching staff to both conduct face-to-face learning and attend to those at home.

This is a primary school, BTW - I suspect remote video classes become more practical with older kids who won't forget to mute/unmute and can focus appropriately.

I guess what is going on does potentially create a two-tiered educational system, with those in school arguably getting better tuition than those at home.

 

[The Clamp]

I get why people are frustrated but I’d give anything to be hunkered down now, only going out when required or for exercise. Like many others I’ve worked through with no choice. I’ve been lucky, working frontline in a high risk environment and not so much as a sniffle but I’m sick of no leave, no overtime ( my income down about 20%) dealing with people who won’t observe lockdown.
I can only imagine how hard frontline NHS have it, it must be horrendous. I wish people would just stay the **** in, keep their kids at home and let the vaccine take effect so people that have had to work through can get some time off to spend with their families.

These idiots might be sick of the sight of their families but I’d like to see mine for the first time in almost a year. I’m sure many other key workers are feeling the same.

People are selfish idiots.


Sorry. Rant over.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

What you don’t believe mums work in supermarkets

A lot more than in lockdown 1 apparently. Must be in all those supermarkets built since last March

 

[LamieRobertson]

The kids had a one-hour video thing yesterday morning. I won't really call it a lesson - it was more about seeing the face and hearing the voices of their classmates.

I think the school are intending to do more as the weeks progress, but I'm not too fussed either way as I have no doubt they are doing the very best they can, particularly given the number of kids they have on site and how that stretches the teaching staff to both conduct face-to-face learning and attend to those at home.

This is a primary school, BTW - I suspect remote video classes become more practical with older kids who won't forget to mute/unmute and can focus appropriately.

I guess what is going on does potentially create a two-tiered educational system, with those in school arguably getting better tuition than those at home.

That all sounds sensible.....though I would add that I spoke at length to one of my customers this week who is a secondary school teacher and the comment re older children doesn’t necessarily ring true.....plus plenty of distractions at home ...as you find I guess

 

[LamieRobertson]

I get why people are frustrated but I’d give anything to be hunkered down now, only going out when required or for exercise. Like many others I’ve worked through with no choice. I’ve been lucky, working frontline in a high risk environment and not so much as a sniffle but I’m sick of no leave, no overtime ( my income down about 20%) dealing with people who won’t observe lockdown.
I can only imagine how hard frontline NHS have it, it must be horrendous. I wish people would just stay the **** in, keep their kids at home and let the vaccine take effect so people that have had to work through can get some time off to spend with their families.

These idiots might be sick of the sight of their families but I’d like to see mine for the first time in almost a year. I’m sure many other key workers are feeling the same.

Some people are selfish idiots.


Sorry. Rant over.

Slight amendment if that’s ok

 

[Wardy's twin]

didn't help when the police basically said they won't/can't enforce the rules. Some serious examples should have been made and people will take notice. yes will start with Cummings but also some other MPs who are COVID deniers. Heard yesterday on the news there is a pub in Kent which has been closed permanently by the police after being caught for the 6th time... SIX times...... shoul have been find heavily after second one then closed...

 

[The Clamp]

Times reporting a crackdown is on it’s way with enforcement stepping up. Not a moment too soon.