caz99 said:its not over till the fat lady sings. they cannot claim victory yet as votes are still being counted. if they discard those votes its a disgrace.
Richie Morris said:They are not discarding those votes.
Ohio will decide it and Bush is leading by 130,000 votes with 99.9% of the wards having reported in.
Even though there are 170,000 Provisional votes, Kerry would have to win nearly all of them to take the state of Ohio..which he wont.
Richie Morris said:
My tip? Hilary Clinton to run in four years.
CrabtreeBHA said:so if one person agrees with Bush one one topic he should vote for him? what if he disagrees on several other topics...what then?
US people are voting on Religion in many cases ad Bush knows this because he played that card during the build up "God will see us through" and shit like that...it happens, people blindly vote!
skitz said:Just to clarify - is your whole argument a few words of abuse, or have you actually got a valid reason for our soldiers to be risking their lives for American oil?
Meade's_Ball said:They obviously have a lot more self-control, if that is the right word, than i have.
Is that sense of duty to the army and country something that is there beforehand, or something drilled in so that things don't fall apart?
I'm interested to understand the mentality.
Easy 10 said:
(cue the melodramatic "Its The End Of The World If Bush Gets In" posts).
Richie Morris said:Im just waiting for all the Bush bashers to start saying this was another undemocratic vote and find ways he cheated.
I dont think Kerry deserves to be President. He would have been elected not on his own merits, but against Bush's. This was a referendum on Bush and he seems to have come through it.
What the Democrats (and democracy) needs is a decent candidate. Hilary Clinton would give Bush a run for his money.
Easy 10 said:I make a completely general remark about the possibility a proportion of people blindly voting for "anyone but Bush", regardless as to who they are voting in, and so along with The Gospel According to Skitz, I am now Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeldt rolled into one, with my tongue so far up Bush's arse I can taste what he had for breakfast.
Whatever. I really couldn't give a flying f*** at a rolling donut WHO wins the election. I'll still be sat here at work tomorrow, I'll still have a season ticket, the sun will still rise, the world will go on.
(cue the melodramatic "Its The End Of The World If Bush Gets In" posts).
That was EXACTLY my point RichieRichie Morris said:I dont think Kerry deserves to be President. He would have been elected not on his own merits, but against Bush's.
Smithers-Jones said:Well for starters, we don't have conscription here! That means that everybody in the forces is there because they want to be. That makes a huge difference when trying to maintain discipline. The sense of duty is drilled into you,to some extent, it is what all that bullshit and beasting is all about. Some people think that the emphasis in being smart is a load of crap. To a soldier it is installing the self discipline to keep yourself clean and tidy, thereby reducing the risk of infection and illness whilst on active duty. Not just to look good on Trooping the colour!!