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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,097


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,130
Vilamoura, Portugal
Yes, great - Australia. Smallish country on the other side of the world. Let's not bother with trade with France, Germany and all that irrelevant stuff.

"The British government has already begun preparatory work for trade deals with America and Australia set to be worth billions of pounds, less than a month after the British people voted to leave the European Union."

Did you miss the word in BOLD?
 






soistes

Well-known member
Sep 12, 2012
2,648
Brighton
"The British government has already begun preparatory work for trade deals with America and Australia set to be worth billions of pounds, less than a month after the British people voted to leave the European Union."

Did you miss the word in BOLD?

Nope. US is important, but we already have a good trade relationship with them. What we are potentially losing, with EU trade, is unlikely to be offset by any new deal with the US.View attachment Countries_0516.pdf
 








JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Boris Johnson plane makes emergency landing after 'technical issue'

A small military aircraft carrying newly-appointed Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has had to make an emergency landing on its way to Brussels.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36820756

Conspiracy theory open goal ... was it a Remain voter doing the pre flight 'checks' or have the EU already decided to play hardball? :ohmy:
 




5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
Glad Leavers have, finally, set out some hard targets and goals. Previously all they could do is rubbish really existing trade deals and talk in meaningless generalities. I wonder what happens if they don't deliver?
 






5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
The Brexit Secretary of State, David Davies said on Sky news that we will have numerous trade deals ready to come in to force when Article 50 negotiations are concluded.

Which will give us better access to a much bigger trade area than the EU. "An enormous upside"

around 2025 then?
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,130
Vilamoura, Portugal
Not as big as the E.U. though, but we will have a deal with the US soon anyway, as part of the E.U.

This deal?

Following the referendum result, Mike Froman, the US trade representative, has held discussions about a UK-US trade deal with senior government a deal with Britain.

Speaking in Washington, Mr Froman has said that the shape of a deal will depend in part on the terms of Britain’s exit from the EU, the Telegraph has reported. Dr Fox will be holding talks with Mr Froman this week, before flying to America, perhaps as early as next weekend.

But Mr Froman admitted that the vote also had significant implications for the future of the deeply unpopular Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) deal currently being negotiated between the US and EU, as America had entered talks in large part as a means to accessing the British market.
 




Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Glad Leavers have, finally, set out some hard targets and goals. Previously all they could do is rubbish really existing trade deals and talk in meaningless generalities. I wonder what happens if they don't deliver?

Are you really "glad", i suspect you would love things to go belly up.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,826
Glad Leavers have, finally, set out some hard targets and goals. Previously all they could do is rubbish really existing trade deals and talk in meaningless generalities. I wonder what happens if they don't deliver?

doesnt the economy collapse and regess back to something like the mid-1970's but worse? it'll be three-day week and rolling blackouts, petrol rationing, queues for basic food, the dead unburied, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, basically mass hysteria!
 




Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,832
Crawley
The Brexit Secretary of State, David Davies said on Sky news that we will have numerous trade deals ready to come in to force when Article 50 negotiations are concluded.

Which will give us better access to a much bigger trade area than the EU. "An enormous upside"

Yeah, I don't believe it, I don't even think Davis believes it, he is just talking Britain up. It will take a lot longer to do deals that are good for Britain with any major economy. If he rushes any deal, he is likely to be giving too much away and not getting enough back.
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,066
On the Border
"The British government has already begun preparatory work for trade deals with America and Australia set to be worth billions of pounds, less than a month after the British people voted to leave the European Union."

Did you miss the word in BOLD?

So basically a visit to see if we are still at the back of the queue. You also need to remember that Mike Forman holds no power in that respect, it is the president, where Barack Obama said back of the queue and has not given any indication that this will change.
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,130
Vilamoura, Portugal
Yeah, I don't believe it, I don't even think Davis believes it, he is just talking Britain up. It will take a lot longer to do deals that are good for Britain with any major economy. If he rushes any deal, he is likely to be giving too much away and not getting enough back.

He's got a minimum of 2 years. It's hardly rushing is it? Not everyone is as intransigent as the EU. After all, the EU's trading philosophy is to encourage trade between EU member nations and to discourage trade with non-EU nations.
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
8,130
Vilamoura, Portugal
So basically a visit to see if we are still at the back of the queue. You also need to remember that Mike Forman holds no power in that respect, it is the president, where Barack Obama said back of the queue and has not given any indication that this will change.

To be fair Obama hasn't said much about it since his failed intervention for Remain. "Back of the queue" was just a soundbite to try and sway the vote.
 




5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
doesnt the economy collapse and regess back to something like the mid-1970's but worse? it'll be three-day week and rolling blackouts, petrol rationing, queues for basic food, the dead unburied, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, basically mass hysteria!

Much more humdrum than that, lower levels of trade and less inward investment. Like now, but poorer and weaker. Bit lame imo.
 




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