Ali or Tyson.......

[Tyrone Biggums]

How was he a dumb boxer ?
He fought exactly how a (shorter than most) fighter should fight & isn't it funny how every fighter from the Ali era beats Tyson according to most on NSC.... Pure nostalgia

Look at who Ali lost too and who Tyson lost too.

Ali only lost to boxers who held a World Heavy Weight title at one point in their career.

Tyson lost to Kevin McBride.

 

[bomber130]

For an answer to this see Ali vs Liston I.

. Exactly this. Ali would of just jabbed and moved making a mug out of Tyson. Far to much speed for Tyson to deal with.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I reckon Foreman would have beaten Tyson as well in their primes.

 

[tezz79]

Look at who Ali lost too and who Tyson lost too.

Ali only lost to boxers who held a World Heavy Weight title at one point in their career.

Tyson lost to Kevin McBride.

Yeah that was in 2005 that's like me bringing the Tyson V Holmes fight into it..... Pointless

 

[tezz79]

I reckon Foreman would have beaten Tyson as well in their primes.

Foreman could have beaten anyone if he caught them flush enough too many times... Massive puncher

 

[Brovion]

I reckon Tyson would have had a good chance against Leon Spinks. But Ali, Foreman or Frazier in their prime? No way. There's a world of difference between being a boxer and being a vicious bastard.

 

[piersa]

Tyson clearly holds the moral and cerebral high ground.

 

[BensGrandad]

, I don't think Lewis would have handled the early mike AT ALL

Lewis would have been too big, too strong, too quick and much too good for a b ully like Tyson so much so that it would have been classed as a mismatch. Went to see him fight David Tua and after the fight coming away from the ring somebody asked Geroge Foreman if he would come out of retirmen t to fight Lennox his answer was " Do I look stupid He is the best ever he has everything strength speed ability and also a heavy punch." This about summed Lennox Lewis up. As regards Ali vs Tyson just look what Ali did to Sonny Liston who was stronger and more durable than Tyson and also a good puncher. A puncher will always stand a chance againsta boxer because he may land the 1 punch needed provided he got near enough, which eh wouldnt have done against Ali or Lewis. Both would have kept him at distance with their punching and quick leads.

 

[maltaseagull]

I find myself in total agreement with bushy.

Me too.

 

[rouseytastic]

Look at who Ali lost too and who Tyson lost too.

Ali only lost to boxers who held a World Heavy Weight title at one point in their career.

Tyson lost to Kevin McBride.

Bit harsh. Tyson lost fights he shouldn't have due to his lifestyle and guidance, or lack of it. More to do with his bad judgement outside the ring as opposed to his ability inside it.

Ali lost fights too, 5 as an amateur as well.........

 

[tezz79]

Ah well at least there's one thing we can all agree on & that is that the heavyweight devision is piss poor at the minute & doesn't look like picking up anytime soon..... You've only got to look at Tyson fury to confirm that

 

[rouseytastic]

Ah well at least there's one thing we can all agree on & that is that the heavyweight devision is piss poor at the minute & doesn't look like picking up anytime soon..... You've only got to look at Tyson fury to confirm that

Spot on!

 

[SK1NT]

Both two greats of the sport. Tyson really could have gone down as a great if he sorted his head out and didn't go down hill after the Cus Dmato death. However i think Ali would have been to smart for Tyson. Frazer was a lot grittier and determind than Tyson as a fighter and Ali dealt with him (just) took some huge punches... watch the thrilla in manilla...

Ali was a very clever and shrewd fighter and was really under estimated for his punching power and chin... He was a lot more than just a quick puncher. I do think fighters of that era 50's 60's were much better too.

Tyson to start off lively catching Ali with come big hooks, maybe with a possible early knoack down, but Ali gets up... Dances and jabs and moving into the 5th 6 th rounds Ali takes control... Ali to win by KO in the 9th 10th round.

 

[rouseytastic]

Both two greats of the sport. Tyson really could have gone down as a great if he sorted his head out and didn't go down hill after the Cus Dmato death. However i think Ali would have been to smart for Tyson. Frazer was a lot grittier and determind than Tyson as a fighter and Ali dealt with him (just) took some huge punches... watch the thrilla in manilla...

Ali was a very clever and shrewd fighter and was really under estimated for his punching power and chin... He was a lot more than just a quick puncher. I do think fighters of that era 50's 60's were much better too.

Tyson to start off lively catching Ali with come big hooks, maybe with a possible early knoack down, but Ali gets up... Dances and jabs and moving into the 5th 6 th rounds Ali takes control... Ali to win by KO in the 9th 10th round.

Good post. I'd still have Tyson to have too much for Ali and end it in the 7th though.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Pre the death of Cus D'Amato and the arrival of Don King, Tyson could have developed into the greatest heavyweight ever, and would have beaten Louis, Marciano, Foreman, Frazier, whoever, inc Ali but once he went of the rails he was never the same.


They reckon he was in the throes of alcoholism and drugs when he fought Bruno in 1989.

 

[rouseytastic]

Pre the death of Cus D'Amato and the arrival of Don King, Tyson could have developed into the greatest heavyweight ever, and would have beaten Louis, Marciano, Foreman, Frazier, whoever, inc Ali but once he went of the rails he was never the same.


They reckon he was in the throes of alcoholism and drugs when he fought Bruno in 1989.

If you look at way he totally destroyed Bruno in the 5th he coped with it well

 

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If you look at way he totally destroyed Bruno in the 5th he coped with it well

Indeed, it took a special kind of boxer to cope with the dazzling footwork, range of punches and sheer athleticism that an opponent like Bruno provided.

 

[rouseytastic]

Indeed, it took a special kind of boxer to cope with the dazzling footwork, range of punches and sheer athleticism that an opponent like Bruno provided.

Obviously.

Meant to be taken more in the context of: 'They reckon he was in the throes of alcoholism and drugs when he fought Bruno in 1989.'