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[Mellotron]

If we had CMS and Murray we'd be top 4 right now. I have no doubt about that.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

But that's the thing. It was silly to sell Murray to get CMS. You need both. Or both types of player, at least. For me it's comfortably Gus's biggest error since taking over.

As I said earlier in the thread, I think the plan was to have both, as Hoskins came in for Murray. We offered Murray a contract, he refused. I haven't heard anyone say that he came back to us to tell us that he was being offered double up the road, and would we up our offer?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

If we had CMS and Murray we'd be top 4 right now. I have no doubt about that.

With Holroyd in the hole ?

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

If we had CMS and Murray we'd be top 4 right now. I have no doubt about that.

Agree with all you've said in this thread, it's pretty galling TBH. Classy players like Murray don't grow on trees either.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

But that's the thing. It was silly to sell Murray to get CMS. You need both. Or both types of player, at least. For me it's comfortably Gus's biggest error since taking over.

Totally agree.

 

[BensGrandad]

Hypothetical I know but does anybody think that Gus would try to get GM in January and if so at what transfer fee. My view is that Palace would ask for a fee nearing that of CMS, so the answer would be NO. I think that a bid for Lambert would be unlikely but more likely than a bid for GM.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Agree with all you've said in this thread, it's pretty galling TBH. Classy players like Murray don't grow on trees either.

So classy he came way behind Barnes and Painter in your favourite players. History being rewritten by some on this board.

Your Top 5 Current Albion Players

 

[BensGrandad]

But that's the thing. It was silly to sell Murray to get CMS. You need both. Or both types of player, at least. For me it's comfortably Gus's biggest error since taking over.

As has been said we didn't sell Murray but it was still Gus's biggest mistake to let him go, although we don't know about the financial implications exactly, only rumors and hearsay

 

[blue2]

My impression has always been that Murray & CMS were to play together & that Hoskins was Murray's replacement.

And that Gus hoped Hoskins would have growth spurt!

 

[Mellotron]

As I said earlier in the thread, I think the plan was to have both, as Hoskins came in for Murray. We offered Murray a contract, he refused. I haven't heard anyone say that he came back to us to tell us that he was being offered double up the road, and would we up our offer?

Hoskins isn't really a Murray type player, is he? I hope he is.

 

[LamieRobertson]

we didn't sell murray..just didn't re sign him

 

[LamieRobertson]

Hypothetical I know but does anybody think that Gus would try to get GM in January and if so at what transfer fee. My view is that Palace would ask for a fee nearing that of CMS, so the answer would be NO. I think that a bid for Lambert would be unlikely but more likely than a bid for GM.

hypothetical sums it up and not worth a thought

 

[Caveman]

So classy he came way behind Barnes and Painter in your favourite players. History being rewritten by some on this board.

Your Top 5 Current Albion Players

This. It always puzzles me. I took a big disliking to Murray when he was with us. I slowly warmed to him in the final season, but people seem to forget how poor he was prior to this. Yes, he's scored 13 goals so far, of which a big percentage from the spot.
I also remember people constantly moaning about how easy he would keep going to ground.

He was a sulking little shit a times who now plays for the scum.... Let it go, he's gone and he ain't coming back, i want someone who wants to pull on an Albion shirt.

Elliott Bennett on the other hand was a proper footballer who I'd take back in a shot.

 

[Caveman]

And that Gus hoped Hoskins would have growth spurt!

Didn't Hoskins score more goals for a team that got relegated? Maybe we have a player who in a full season is better than Murray? Just a thought like.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

This. It always puzzles me. I took a big disliking to Murray when he was with us. I slowly warmed to him in the final season, but people seem to forget how poor he was prior to this. Yes, he's scored 13 goals so far, of which a big percentage from the spot.
I also remember people constantly moaning about how easy he would keep going to ground.

He was a sulking little shit a times who now plays for the scum.... Let it go, he's gone and he ain't coming back, i want someone who wants to pull on an Albion shirt.

Elliott Bennett on the other hand was a proper footballer who I'd take back in a shot.

I agree with you, but for comedy laughs it would be fantastic if he run down the remaining 18 months on his contract and came back on a FREE.

 

[Weststander]

Murray is paid a fraction of many of the current Albion squad, and very much wanted to stay.

Gus thought he wouldn't cave in to a very affordable wage increase, to prove that he's the boss. Palace's gain.

And yes .... very consistent. Like many on NSC, have rated Murray as a great forward and footballer, before, during & after he left.

At the fan's day April 2011, he was mobbed far more than any other player. The fans knew he was quality.

Gus definitely boobed there big time.

 

[Northstandite]

Murray is not paid a fortune by CP.

They couldn't afford it for a start.

The wages figures are known, and they are surprisingly low. Gus turned the normal contract impasse into a battle he had to win. 'Nose and face'.

 

[DT Withdean]

Most on here will never admit it, but Murray is a quality striker, now helping a progressive playing team (attack at all costs) edge to the PL.

He could have stayed with us for a few extra £. Galling.

 

[El Presidente]

This. It always puzzles me. I took a big disliking to Murray when he was with us. I slowly warmed to him in the final season, but people seem to forget how poor he was prior to this. Yes, he's scored 13 goals so far, of which a big percentage from the spot.
I also remember people constantly moaning about how easy he would keep going to ground.

He was a sulking little shit a times who now plays for the scum.... Let it go, he's gone and he ain't coming back, i want someone who wants to pull on an Albion shirt.

Elliott Bennett on the other hand was a proper footballer who I'd take back in a shot.

Murray's goals to games record was almost constant throughout the 3.5 years of his contract though, which suggests he was not poor prior to the final season.

Is the Elliott Bennett you refer to the same one who put in a transfer request NINE WEEKS after signing a new and improved contract, or someone else?

 

[c0lz]

This. It always puzzles me. I took a big disliking to Murray when he was with us. I slowly warmed to him in the final season, but people seem to forget how poor he was prior to this. Yes, he's scored 13 goals so far, of which a big percentage from the spot.
I also remember people constantly moaning about how easy he would keep going to ground.

He was a sulking little shit a times who now plays for the scum.... Let it go, he's gone and he ain't coming back, i want someone who wants to pull on an Albion shirt.

Elliott Bennett on the other hand was a proper footballer who I'd take back in a shot.

Amen to that.

Murray had one good season with us with 22 goals and had some thing to prove with his contract coming to a end , Barnes the same season scored 18 goals and played less games. yes Murray had some good goals but gee he missed some sitters and penalty's too.