[Politics] 2020 US election - Joe Biden vs Donald Trump

[highflyer]

Has he performed that badly if you are an average American in an average American State? There seems to be this perception that America is mainly places like New York and California. It’s the opposite.

I’d far rather Biden won than Trump, but it was pretty obvious it was going to be a lot closer than predicted, so much so I even put a bet on a Trump win, and I’m not a betting man.

Does a bet on a Trump win still get paid out if the win is (eventually) in court rather than through declared results?

 

[Gazwag]

What does Trump know that we don’t?

Why call into question the legitimacy of the result if you’re projected to win it anyway? If he’s odds on to win it, why create a shit storm if it’s yours on a plate?

Is he genuinely worried these last counts are going to go against him?

He knows there are still a massive amount of postal votes still to be counts in states where he is ahead at the moment, many of these are massive numbers, over one million in some cases and they know a vast majority of those are votes by democrat registered voters

 

[Commander]

Does a bet on a Trump win still get paid out if the win is (eventually) in court rather than through declared results?

Assume so.

 

[portslade seagull]

He knows there are still a massive amount of postal votes still to be counts in states where he is ahead at the moment, many of these are massive numbers, over one million in some cases and they know a vast majority of those are votes by democrat registered voters

How does he know, surely it's a secret ballot. Could be an even split

 

[Albion Dan]

That speech..... FFS, the guy is a lunatic. How is this happening again?!

After this and 2016, the Brexit vote and last election here, questions need to be asked whether adults in the Western world are actually too stupid now to be allowed the vote?

So democracy should be stopped because the results don’t go the way you want?

I was anti Brexit and anti Trump first time round. I’m totally indifferent between Biden and him this time and think it’s grossly arrogant for Brits to suggest Americans are stupid for voting for a person in the country they live in after four years of experiencing his leadership.

 

[Bold Seagull]

So democracy should be stopped because the results don’t go the way you want?

I was anti Brexit and anti Trump first time round. I’m totally indifferent between Biden and him this time and think it’s grossly arrogant for Brits to suggest Americans are stupid for voting for a person in the country they live in after four years of experiencing his leadership.

Trump is a Gemini so perhaps some of his personality traits should be given a bit more leeway?

 

[Napper]

Got to say am surprised as thought Trump would get trounced. Just goes to show.

Hoping he somehow gets the victory though , at least Trump stands up to the easily offended crew.

Done better than expected will will no doubt upset a few more

Confusing process though

 

[Bozza]

Does a bet on a Trump win still get paid out if the win is (eventually) in court rather than through declared results?

You'd want to check the specific terms with whoever you place the bet with, but you'd likely be OK with most I think.

This is Betfair's rules:

Who will be elected to be the next President of the United States of America as a result of the 2020 presidential election?

This market will be settled according to the candidate that has the most projected Electoral College votes won at the 2020 presidential election. Any subsequent events such as a ‘faithless elector’ will have no effect on the settlement of this market. In the event that no Presidential candidate receives a majority of the projected Electoral College votes, this market will be settled on the person chosen as President in accordance with the procedures set out by the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

This market will be void if an election does not take place in 2020. If more than one election takes place in 2020, then this market will apply to the first election that is held.​

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Civil war on it's way

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[nicko31]

I'm didn't vote in the poll because I had a feeling it would be close

What happens, whatever the result Trump's racism, white supremacy and lies have been vindicated.

A sad state of affairs, Britain has its problems but I hope we don't ever end up in this place

 

[Uh_huh_him]

i wonder how the person who bet £1m on Biden is feeling.

Laying some off?
doubling down?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

How does he know, surely it's a secret ballot. Could be an even split

Postal votes have traditionally been Democrat in the past.

 

[Is it PotG?]

i wonder how the person who bet £1m on Biden is feeling.

Laying some off?
doubling down?

Good odds right now

 

[vegster]

one of the worse trends of recent years is people being told they voted wrong. not a discussion to convince them of the alternative, just that they are wrong.

Did the majority that voted for Johnson's Tory party get it right with hindsight?

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Good odds right now

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I wonder whether that's because they laid their £1m bet off when the results started coming in....

 

[vegster]

What does Trump know that we don’t?

Why call into question the legitimacy of the result if you’re projected to win it anyway? If he’s odds on to win it, why create a shit storm if it’s yours on a plate?

Is he genuinely worried these last counts are going to go against him?

This struck me when I heard his " press Conference", he said he had won here there and everywhere with increasing numbers on 2016, he was bigging up almost every state ( except those he lost of course, no mention of them) and how it was going to be a landslide THEN said that there was fraud!

 

[Is it PotG?]

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

If Trump wins I'm taking it as the final and incontrovertible proof that there is no god. I'll accept the irony of this given that his victory will only be achieved through the overwhelming support of the bible belt voters.

 

[WATFORD zero]

one of the worse trends of recent years is people being told they voted wrong. not a discussion to convince them of the alternative, just that they are wrong.

You and I had numerous discussions on how we would operate without a border in Ireland or the Irish Sea. I really think the Brexit discussions are over and the facts are all there now for everyone to see.

I'm quite happy to continue the discussions, just quote this post over on the Brexit thread where it should be, and we can continue, and not take this thread O/T (obviously same goes for the post you quoted and others who are trying to make similar points on this thread, you know who you are). Happy to discuss this on the relevant thread

 

[Wrong-Direction]

I'm didn't vote in the poll because I had a feeling it would be close

What happens, whatever the result Trump's racism, white supremacy and lies have been vindicated.

A sad state of affairs, Britain has its problems but I hope we don't ever end up in this place

We're not far behind

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