Your Teacher Asks You To Do Homework on a Person Who Has Changed The World

[Questions]

I don't know enough about the curriculum to suggest whether there is an agenda or not. What if there is? Black male pupils are notoriously difficult to teach and there are stats/figures that show they fail badly or do not partake in the the schooling 'tradition'. Maybe, just maybe, this will bring them back into the game or at least give the black pupils something to relate to?

Is it a coincidence that many of the fatalities and gang wars in London are black on black? Is this linked to a poor education? Perhaps the curriculum (the one I know nothing of) is aimed to improve the chances of the black community of fulfilling a life beyond crime? We shall have to wait and see.

Role models are crucial and maybe we need to steer the black pupils away from 50 Cent, Rio Ferdinand and Snoop, but towards Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and Barack Obama.

Too many questions in there to deal with in one swoop BOF but on the subject of black on black crime (or any black crime really) I would link that subject - like you have rightly done - with the importance of role models, but in my opinion a role model should be your father or an older relative not so much a politician from a country thousands of miles away. The lack of a male parent in many of the families that these boys come from may contribute to this.
I`ll await the usual racist shouts now.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I agree, up to a certain point but you "steer" anyone towards Barack Obama and they are going to end up looking like the business end of a pepperpot

Quite possibly. I threw his name in for good measure and I know little of his upbringing. Consider Barack replaced with Walter Tull!

 

[vegster]

Quite possibly. I threw his name in for good measure and I know little of his upbringing. Consider Barack replaced with Walter Tull!

I believe that if you were wearing grey in that season,you had a similar result. That was Harry's first incarnation at Spurs, the "shoot on sight" era

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Too many questions in there to deal with in one swoop BOF but on the subject of black on black crime (or any black crime really) I would link that subject - like you have rightly done - with the importance of role models, but in my opinion a role model should be your father or an older relative not so much a politician from a country thousands of miles away. The lack of a male parent in many of the families that these boys come from may contribute to this.
I`ll await the usual racist shouts now.

Oh, I quite agree. It is an proven fact that (I think...hope) black fathers are more likely to be an absent parent. I guess that might stem from a lack of role models and/or a lack of real opportunites. Hopefully, society is moving forward and we are progressing (gradually) to equal rights. It all starts at primary/nursey school.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I believe that if you were wearing grey in that season,you had a similar result. That was Harry's first incarnation at Spurs, the "shoot on sight" era

Good point, well made.

 

[vegster]

Oh, I quite agree. It is an proven fact that (I think...hope) black fathers are more likely to be an absent parent. I guess that might stem from a lack of role models and/or a lack of real opportunites. Hopefully, society is moving forward and we are progressing (gradually) to equal rights. It all starts at primary/nursey school.

or, at Public School ?

 

[Questions]

or, at Public School ?

There are quite a few things that start at Public School but nothing BOF will care to admit to I venture.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I should not have said anything. Buggerations.

 

[vegster]

I should not have said anything. Buggerations.

time for a fag break ? or have you already filled your Beaker ?

 

[Questions]

I should not have said anything. Buggerations.[/QUOTE]


Exactly but Vegster does the gags here.

 

[1066familyman]

You are ten years old in an SE London junior school. You are given the choice of

Rosa Parks
Martin Luther King
Nelson Mandela

Who do you chose? Or do you say oh I would prefer to do something else there is obviously a racial agenda to this, is this any way for ten year olds to be educated? Or do you just get on with it oblivious to how you at TEN, are being manipulated by well meaning but idiotic racists.
Anyone who cares to tell me this isnt happening all over London and we are lucky to live in such a tolerant society and oh how smugly say we are streets ahead of America in our enlightened race relations, if so please feel free to state your reasons for these views below.

Quite clearly the list has been foisted on the unsuspecting 10yr olds by white woolly minded liberals.

The list is clearly biased. It should read :

Malcolm Little (X)
Stokely Carmichael
Marcus Garvey.

 

[The Spanish]

Quite clearly the list has been foisted on the unsuspecting 10yr olds by white woolly minded liberals.

The list is clearly biased. It should read :

Malcolm Little (X)
Stokely Carmichael
Marcus Garvey.

Look out someone who has a few Prince Far I albums has entered the fray.

 

[The Spanish]

Oh, I quite agree. It is an proven fact that (I think...hope) black fathers are more likely to be an absent parent. I guess that might stem from a lack of role models and/or a lack of real opportunites. Hopefully, society is moving forward and we are progressing (gradually) to equal rights. It all starts at primary/nursey school.

Interesting view but in this case we are dealing with:

lots of West African children in care or in foster homes with parents back in Nigeria/Ghana etc

4th generation West Indian descent children from very stable homes

Somalian kids who are all over the place

Mixed race kids with British/Caribbean heritage (cough cough I am trying to give you a clue here that people may not be just vest wearing lager swilling BNP voters who are concerned about this)

Its not that straightforward and this is the problem. Lumping kids from very disparate backgrounds into one 'ethnic' lump is perhaps not helpful to anyone.

 

[1066familyman]

Look out someone who has a few Prince Far I albums has entered the fray.

Surprised you didn't plump for Burning Spear.

 

[The Spanish]

Surprised you didn't plump for Burning Spear.

saw them twice at the top rank suite and they were magnificent.

 

[blue'n'white]

Whilst he's a icon for many people, I struggle to see how Mandela has changed the world...Yes he's a great man in most respects but what's not reported is his staunch objection to contraception in South Africa which, as a result of HIS policies as President has meant that the number of people in South Africa with HIV/AIDs is higher than any other African country. In addition, little fuss is made of his and South Africa's support for Mugabe in Zimbabwe.

So when people say he's changed the world, some may argue not necessarily for the good.

. . . you forgot to mention that he is and always will be a terrorist !!

 

[Questions]

. . . you forgot to mention that he is and always will be a terrorist !!

1962 The terroist.
Mandela was arrested after living on the run for seventeen months.The arrest was made possible because the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency tipped off the security police as to Mandela's whereabouts and disguise.

1998 The peacemaker
By the time the 80-year-old statesman prepared to leave the USA after five days of fast-paced travel activities, he had received the Congressional Gold Medal.
He was only the third person in history to be awarded one at a time other than commencement.

 

[Pavilionaire]

history is written by the victors

Is that why there are no famous French historians?

 

[Pigsy]

As a mixed race child, brought up purely by my white mother, in a white suburban area, I had no black role models or even any contact with black people. It thus took me many years to come to terms with my larger than average penis and advanced dancing skills.

 

[vegster]

1962 The terroist.
Mandela was arrested after living on the run for seventeen months.The arrest was made possible because the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency tipped off the security police as to Mandela's whereabouts and disguise.

1998 The peacemaker
By the time the 80-year-old statesman prepared to leave the USA after five days of fast-paced travel activities, he had received the Congressional Gold Medal.
He was only the third person in history to be awarded one at a time other than commencement.

well, he certainly didn't get the award for "Services To The Fashion Industry" or "Shirtwearer of the Year"...... the bloke needs a clothing makeover. Mind you his Mrs went off the rails a bit and I suppose its tough choosing shirts without your woman to help. so "Role model" ? well, the high up's at Ben Sherman will disagree