Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Falklands factor and Cameron just been kippered for his war by the astute leadership of the Labour Party
Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊
Your prediction,the 2015 general election result.
- Thread starter Leekbrookgull
- Start date
Falklands factor and Cameron just been kippered for his war by the astute leadership of the Labour Party
You also missed something else, the unelectability of the Labour party (I wonder if that will be a factor too in 2015?)
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
What about the unelectability of the Tories ? A party that couldn't form a government in 2010 so proving itself unelectable has hardly done its chances any good with the bashing of the poor and disabled as well as its many U Turns and policy cock ups. The only policy they did right for them was the tax cut for their mates
jgmcdee
New member
- Mar 25, 2012
- 931
Not sure that plays such a part when the party is not in power.
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,265
The problem with threads like this is that posters can't 'park' their allegiance for one moment and simply comment on what they think is going to happen.
I suppose it shows that there is a sizeable minority that still gives a shit.
I think the only thing you can say with any certainty at the moment is that Labour would be well and truly in pole position if they'd elected David rather than Ed.
I suppose it shows that there is a sizeable minority that still gives a shit.
I think the only thing you can say with any certainty at the moment is that Labour would be well and truly in pole position if they'd elected David rather than Ed.
Tubby Mondays
Well-known member
Is this the same 'Ed The red' that is trying to reform Union/Labour Party links to an unprecedented scale?
You need to read a more up to date Janet and John do politics book.
Labour was not in power in 1979 and it was not in power in 1983, it was its drift further left that made it unelectable even more (to the voters at the time).
Tubby Mondays
Well-known member
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,015
the same Ed the Red that was put where he is by the unions. if i were a Conservative Party strategist, i'd be planning to highlight this to show how you cant trust him, he'll change his views and policies as soon as he gets in to power.
With certainty? The only poll I've seen on the subject still had Ed ahead of his brother among Labour voters.
http://www7.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/category/leader-approval-ratings/
Of course, it's possible that David would be ahead of Ed among non-Labour voters but I've not seen a poll that suggests that, so I'm not sure how you can be "certain" that this is the case
I'd say the exact reverse of this: at a time when politicians are accused of acting purely in self-interest, it would show a politician who was prepared to act against his own interest. If he could do it, it would be a massive vote winner.
I think that's a big if though. He's painted himself into a corner by making his stand: he either has to go through with it, which would mean a bit loss of income to the Labour party, or pull back and show weakness, which would mean a big loss of votes to the Labour party. I personally think he'll pull back and suffer the consequences
And if I were a Tory strategist I wouldn't be hiring you.
To do what you suggest would present a nice Labour tap-in: The Tories mocking a Labour leader for having the balls to remove the Union block vote would in turn be spun as a sign of how desperate the Tories are.
Not for most of it no and as it's policies drifted further to the left over the next 4 years, the less votes it received, which was one of the factors that led to the Tories massively increasing their majority at the next election.
Tricky Dicky
New member
I don't know about that, they'd still have Ed Balls and Harriet Harman - two good reasons never to vote for this Labour party.
While that's true, I'd say the bigger factor was the SDP/Lib alliance eating into the share of the Labour vote. The Tory vote went down in 1983 from its share in 79 - and that's after the boost it got from the Falklands War
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,015
dont be silly, it wont be open "mocking" from Tory MPs, it will be quiet briefing friendly journos/columnist who make the observation. possibly the left too (it isnt going to go down well is it?). i agree with his intent, but you have to admit it looks a tad ungrateful to those who gave him power.
This.
Ed Milliband may be a bit useless and geeky but you can't really hate him. He is actually a good speaker and personally I think he has potential as a PM. But could anyone really trust Ed Balls with the economy? He has got it wrong twice and still has no humility or self awareness. No chance for Labour unless Balls goes.
Also this. Can't imagine the typical UKIP voter (basically Mr Angry from Purley who believes Cameron and Osborne are too left wing) taking the risk, when it really matters, of letting labour in by the back door
melias shoes
Well-known member
- Oct 14, 2010
- 4,830
You seem to be able too. So because he doesn't agree with your political view makes him a lunatic. Typical leftie.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
UKIP now out of the equation, totally discredited after todays events
You would think so wouldn't you but the average UKIP supporter will have loved 'today's events'!