Your prediction,the 2015 general election result.

[BHAWise]

The tories cancelled the order for the F35B and switched to the carrier version F35C but then switched back!



So please explain exactly what GB has to answer for. The stats will show that when the tories came to power, the economy was growing. Not sure how you arrive at that conclusion about bedroom 'tax'. Social housing was being built duriing the 13 years the labour party were in power. What did for Brown, apart from his personality, was a world wide recession that started because US banks were issuing mortgages like confetti to anyone that submitted an application and was exacerbated because banks everywhere bought toxic debt without appreciating the risks. Finally, which working man on £26k can afford to buy.

As I am a working man earning around the 28 k mark and can now get a mortgage. Where as under a labour government doing the same job I was earning closer to 24 a year. Being in the building trade I can confirm the building of social and affordable living homes has increased ten fold.

What good did he do for the Economy? We were stil technically in decline for over a year whilst the coalition were in power? He also made great desitions to sell our gold reserves didn't he? What is it worth now? New labour is old Tory get over it

 

[Bold Seagull]

That's what happens when you borrow more than you can afford! It becomes a virtual impossibility to control and reduce. At least the Tories are trying and they inherited the debt rather than created it. But Labour have the answer........ Borrow MORE!!

The mythology of the debt.

The performance of Labour and the Conservatives on the national debt is very similar if you compare the Tories up to 1997, and Labour up to 2008. In fact up to 2008 the deficit was less than the Tories had it between '92 to '95. Whatever government had been in power in 2008, the outcome would have been much the same. This was a global crisis, not a local one.

 

[LargeHadronZugzwang]

Country well and truly fracked. With Gove intimating that those who go to Food Banks are mismanaging their finances, there is every chance that the rich could be lynched: you cannot keep the disaffected at bay forever. Voting is pretty irrelevant, the Plutocrats have it sown up thanks to Tory Blair and his imitators. Unless we want perpetual war, time's up for our excessive energy usage and policies geared towards limitations are ones that would make a big difference. The only hope we have is in The Greens or the Transition Towns movement.

 

[Ernest]

Each government in power loses seats at the next general election so I don't understand where a Tory majority comes from especially now the voting representation favours Labour, if Cameron can't get overall power last time how is he going to get it in 2015 ?

 

[drew]

Bedroom tax: not an expert so please explain what I have got wrong here.

This new additional rent only applies to state owned housing.This housing is only available to those who cannot afford to buy their own house or rent one on the open market and the rents are subsidised by the taxpayer. So the principal is another but essential form of benefit to support those who most need it.

A major problem is the shortage of such housing. We need to build more but this is going to take many years. In the meantime there is a bowing waiting list. A large part of this waiting list is made up of families that by definition need a certain size of house in excess of one or two bedrooms. There are more one or two bedroom properties available than larger ones. Many social housing tenants are living in larger say (3 bedroom) houses but their children have grown up and left home.

If they moved to the smaller homes then their larger one would be available to the family in need.

Obviously the couple or individual who has to move will not want to (or they would have done already) but at the end of the day their house is not their own but exists to help those in need. Their needs have changed and the state will still support them by offering them a smaller house but the state also has to consider the families that need housing too.

So the tenant in the larger house has a choice of paying a higher rent or moving house. The offered house has to be suitable including geographically.

I can of course see why this is not ideal but it is realistic and if you believe in helping those most in need then it makes sense.

So what have I misunderstood?

I don't disagree with the principle that a couple living in a massive house shouldn't have to move but it's the fact that you cannot have one spare room. Take for example a divorced father who wants his kids to stay at a weekend, where do they sleep. Does this mean he sees less of his kids? It's a bit like the changes to child benefit. The principle is sound but the application has been ill thought out.

As I am a working man earning around the 28 k mark and can now get a mortgage. Where as under a labour government doing the same job I was earning closer to 24 a year. Being in the building trade I can confirm the building of social and affordable living homes has increased ten fold.

What good did he do for the Economy? We were stil technically in decline for over a year whilst the coalition were in power? He also made great desitions to sell our gold reserves didn't he? What is it worth now? New labour is old Tory get over it

And what would the position have been had the tories been in power in 2008. Do you think that by some miracle the world recession would not have affected the UK? Wondered how long it would take for the gold issue to come up!

 

[Mellotron]

Tories outright.

 

[Eksman]

Vote UKIP

 

[somerset]

Each government in power loses seats at the next general election so I don't understand where a Tory majority comes from especially now the voting representation favours Labour, if Cameron can't get overall power last time how is he going to get it in 2015 ?

Its simple, the Lib/Dem voters who feel let down by Cleggs broken promises, and less Labour votes in Scotland possibly because of the impending vote on independence. Plus the improving economic position, assuming it continues.

 

[Ernest]

Its simple, the Lib/Dem voters who feel let down by Cleggs broken promises, and less Labour votes in Scotland possibly because of the impending vote on independence.

Nobody in Scotland will vote Tory and Lib Dems more likely to go Green and then Labour, Cameron has not a hope in hell of getting a majority

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Hung parliament with Tories and Labour having roughly the same number of seats. Lib Dems down to single point percentage of vote. UKIP will hold the balance of power with the Greens gaining a handful of seats.

 

[somerset]

Nobody in Scotland will vote Tory and Lib Dems more likely to go Green and then Labour, Cameron has not a hope in hell of getting a majority

But there you go, less votes for Labour, wherever those voters turn to, is more of a majority for Cameron.

 

[Brovion]

Hung parliament with Tories and Labour having roughly the same number of seats. Lib Dems down to single point percentage of vote. UKIP will hold the balance of power with the Greens gaining a handful of seats.

Given the demise of the LibDems you'd think that the Greens could/should become the natural home for a lot of their voters, at least for the protest vote. However it's really hard to 'like' the Greens; they come over as a smug, arrogant party with policies that boil down to "the planet is going to hell in a handcart so you're all going to have less of everything and it will all cost a lot more"

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Given the demise of the LibDems you'd think that the Greens could/should become the natural home for a lot of their voters, at least for the protest vote. However it's really hard to 'like' the Greens; they come over as a smug, arrogant party with policies that boil down to "the planet is going to hell in a handcart so you're all going to have less of everything and it will all cost a lot more"

Not forgetting that their candidate for Kemp Town has admitted publicly that he used his car for a journey across town of less than 2 miles. Do as I say not as I do party.

 

[fruitnveg]

Hung Parliment. Coalition to emerge formed of Tories and either one or both of Libs/UKIP.

If Labour get in....

 

[beorhthelm]

... Lib Dems more likely to go Green and then Labour

which would split the left vote and return a Tory in many seats. Eastbourne and Lewes for example arent ever going to swing to Labour.

 

[Brovion]

Not forgetting that their candidate for Kemp Town has admitted publicly that he used his car for a journey across town of less than 2 miles. Do as I say not as I do party.

I know, they do leave themselves hostages to fortune. I heard (so may not be true) that Caroline Lucas, (who actually has been an excellent MP), drove, or was driven in, a 4x4 to a meeting at BHASVIC. They HAVE to practice what they preach otherwise it all adds to the general 'Animal Farm' feeling of contempt.

 

[jgmcdee]

which would split the left vote and return a Tory in many seats. Eastbourne and Lewes for example arent ever going to swing to Labour.

Unless the Tories lose as many or more votes to UKIP.

 

[beorhthelm]

Unless the Tories lose as many or more votes to UKIP.

remains to be seen if the UKIP polls will stand up in a serious election, where it really matters.

 

[simmo]

Each government in power loses seats at the next general election so I don't understand where a Tory majority comes from especially now the voting representation favours Labour, if Cameron can't get overall power last time how is he going to get it in 2015 ?

Incorrect:- Tory majority 1979 (approx 30)
Tories re-elected 1983 100+ seat majority

 

[Ernest]

remains to be seen if the UKIP polls will stand up in a serious election, where it really matters.

Not a hope in hell