Couldn’t disagree more. And he’s 2 years younger.
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[Football] Yasin Ayari
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P.C. Beard
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- Aug 8, 2011
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Big fan, have been all season. Don't think he's ever looked out of place. He's had a few halves where he's not quite hit the level required but so has everyone else. He's got a Groß-like engine but with some pace too. Looking forward to seeing what he can become.
Terry Butcher Tribute Act
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- Aug 18, 2013
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Really shocked at how good he's getting. Superb today. Fair play, a big f*** you to the haters.
AZ Gull
@SeagullsAcademy @seagullsacademy.bsky.social
A Chelsea player?
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
All players struggle when the team aren’t winning today was an improvement on Thursday all about belief and confidence.
It’s a bit play ground to say he’s better than so and so he’s improved since Thursday = good, let in continue.
It’s a bit play ground to say he’s better than so and so he’s improved since Thursday = good, let in continue.
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
- 20,994
A 'bonus' player for me.
Didn't expect much. Thought he would go the way of Reda Khedra. I.e. Good, but not good enough.
He's done very well and has filled the space that Hinshelwood's injury has made in the 1st team squad for a non megabucks player who is really contributing to the team.
I'm impressed.
Didn't expect much. Thought he would go the way of Reda Khedra. I.e. Good, but not good enough.
He's done very well and has filled the space that Hinshelwood's injury has made in the 1st team squad for a non megabucks player who is really contributing to the team.
I'm impressed.
Scandinavianseagulls25
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- Nov 27, 2003
- 165
As a Swede, I’ve never found anything particularly special about Ayari. I’ve always struggled to understand why the manager sees him as a starter for Brighton (And for the Swedish national team, for that matter). I assume it largely comes down to injuries.
How I see Ayari at the moment:
* Needs to build strength - Physically, he’s not yet Premier League ready—he’s a bit too weak. Baleba should share his summer training schedule with him so he can return next season with a few extra kilos of muscle.
* Lacks involvement - When we’re attacking or playing possession football (in the attacking half), he doesn’t make himself available and often hides behind opponents.
* Poor set pieces: His free kicks and corners are not good enough. In the last game, he took a terrible free kick that, with some luck, reached the penalty area. After some chaotic play, we managed to score. Today was similar, but the goal was disallowed. But our corners in general has been poor for a few years now.
* He's very inconsistent; one game, he might perform well, but in the next, he could be downright terrible.. but I guess that goes for entire team this season.
* He is a fighter though, similar to Gross, which was mentioned in the thread.
I’ve noticed steady improvement each month. Considering he’s only 21, I’m confident he’ll continue to develop, much like Baleba, and could (with training, game play and luck) become a key player for us within 1-2 seasons.
How I see Ayari at the moment:
* Needs to build strength - Physically, he’s not yet Premier League ready—he’s a bit too weak. Baleba should share his summer training schedule with him so he can return next season with a few extra kilos of muscle.
* Lacks involvement - When we’re attacking or playing possession football (in the attacking half), he doesn’t make himself available and often hides behind opponents.
* Poor set pieces: His free kicks and corners are not good enough. In the last game, he took a terrible free kick that, with some luck, reached the penalty area. After some chaotic play, we managed to score. Today was similar, but the goal was disallowed. But our corners in general has been poor for a few years now.
* He's very inconsistent; one game, he might perform well, but in the next, he could be downright terrible.. but I guess that goes for entire team this season.
* He is a fighter though, similar to Gross, which was mentioned in the thread.
I’ve noticed steady improvement each month. Considering he’s only 21, I’m confident he’ll continue to develop, much like Baleba, and could (with training, game play and luck) become a key player for us within 1-2 seasons.
We've had more success (and potential success) from his two free-kicks than from the vast majority of our set pieces over the last few years. I like the chaos he provides!!
His main assets is his physical and mental attributes. The stamina and fearlessness. He's played for AIK so you know as well as I do that he can handle all kinds of pressure. As for his running he has always been known for his intensity - he LOVES running - and its paying off for him.
If Ayari - constantly running for 90 minutes - isn't physically ready for the Premier League, then what is Wieffer or Milner who can't get near the pitch? To me, and the injury list agrees, he seems like one of our fittest players.
Agree that he sometimes end up in the shadows when we're attacking.
Disagree with him being inconsistent or any more inconsistent than any of our other players. Quite the opposite: we consistently play better with Ayari on the pitch than without him.
He's already a key player now. Most of your critisism isn't necessarily unfair but you make it sound like there's a dozen options who should be starting instead for both Sweden (för vi har ju så jävla bra innermittfältare?) and for Brighton.
But is that really the case? Many many midfielders have been given chances for us this season and either haven't performed or breaks down every five minutes. James Milner, Mats Weiffer and Jack Hinshelwood can be however supergood they want in some sort of magical theoretical world; in reality Ayari is the guy who has shown he has the body and brain to turn up every week in this league, instantly making him better and a more worthy starter than all our imaginary midfielders.
ewe2
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Name a better midfielder for us not playing today……….
Skaville
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I haven’t really ever rated Ayari. Yes, there have been the odd twenty minute spell, but no 90 minute performances that have convinced me… until today.
Loved everything about his performance. Very busy defensively but also incisive going forward. The only thing I don’t rate is his fluffed set pieces, but even those have been paying off in his last two games.
Loved everything about his performance. Very busy defensively but also incisive going forward. The only thing I don’t rate is his fluffed set pieces, but even those have been paying off in his last two games.
Machiavelli
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And Ayari is so much more a FH player than WBG is. He runs. He runs intensively. He runs continuously. Prefer the chaos that Yasin brings to the control WBG provides.
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
- 20,994
Start of last season... and then into this season, with all the signings...
to be going into games happy that Ayari is available in Hinshelwood 's absence was not on my bingo card.
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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I guess it's good to see that you haven't come here to uncritically back your countryman.
I find some of your conclusions a little harsh given his excellent recent performances.
But yes, he has lacked consistency, as does probably every player when they first break into a PL side. You're right of course about his set pieces. I have no idea why we is taking any of them. They are very very poor. I guess he's looked good taking them in training.
Scandinavianseagulls25
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- Nov 27, 2003
- 165
I’m not saying Ayari is our worst midfielder—he’s probably even the second-best after Baleba right now. As mentioned, he’s improving. However, there are still areas where he needs to develop.
None of our midfielders have really had a fair chance due to injuries. Only Baleba and Ayari have been consistently available this season.
Wieffer: The games he played weren’t great—except for the last one before his injury (West Ham I think?), where he was, in my opinion, the Man of the Match.
Milner: It seems unlikely he’ll play again.
O’Reily: He got injured just five minutes into his first game. He looked good in his comeback for the first one or two games, but then… nothing.
I think (and hope..since competition is good..) Hinshelwood can provide some competition. Hinsh has even managed more Premier League wins this season than Ayari (as a starting player)! But I have no idea when he is back....
None of our midfielders have really had a fair chance due to injuries. Only Baleba and Ayari have been consistently available this season.
Wieffer: The games he played weren’t great—except for the last one before his injury (West Ham I think?), where he was, in my opinion, the Man of the Match.
Milner: It seems unlikely he’ll play again.
O’Reily: He got injured just five minutes into his first game. He looked good in his comeback for the first one or two games, but then… nothing.
I think (and hope..since competition is good..) Hinshelwood can provide some competition. Hinsh has even managed more Premier League wins this season than Ayari (as a starting player)! But I have no idea when he is back....
Ive been watching a different player. he is the epitome of the "get on with my job" mentality, totally single minded.
John Byrnes Mullet
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1st name on the team sheet for Hurzeler. I wasn't a fan but have to admit he seems to be developing from what I have seen the last few matches.
Justice
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The slip was oh FFS Ayari to PEDRO !!! to f***ing VAR all in the space of a minute
AstroSloth
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- Dec 29, 2020
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Well more like 3 minutes with the speed of VAR.The slip was oh FFS Ayari to PEDRO !!! to f***ing VAR all in the space of a minute
His set pieces have looked good for Sweden. Not so good for Brighton but could improve if he stops slipping every time he takes on.