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Would you change your referendum vote?

Would you change your referendum vote?

  • Yes! I would change my vote

    Votes: 8 2.9%
  • No! I wouldn't change my Vote

    Votes: 270 96.4%
  • I won't vote

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • My mind has been changed but i am sticking with my original vote

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    280
  • Poll closed .


Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Dead soldiers from World War One would not have voted out in the referendum. It's a shame someone considers it acceptable to post the picture.

Obviously the sneering post that i was replying to and the point i was making have gone over your head. You obviously think like many Remainers that it is ok to insult the pensioners because they did not vote to Remain.
 




studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,229
On the Border
What planet are you on ? The Soviets wouldnt have gone to war with the Germans until they were stabbed in the back, or certainly not until they had built their forces up considerably, and certainly not to defend Poland , I have responded to a post that stated other countries SACRIFICED more than this country did, they didnt, they had no choice , we did.

Perhaps you can point me in the direction of the post to which you refer. I have read one where they state 'equally' but where is the one where others sacrificed more.

Also your definition of sacrificed is flawed. So all the Russian civilians, women, children and the elderly who were not armed, but saw their homes destroyed, suffered severe food shortages, and witnessed many of their friends and family being killed did not sacrifice anything in the war.

It is a very strange person who believes that no sacrifice is made by countries that are invaded as opposed to those that declare war.


So we are clear about your thought process, all the millions of Jews that were subject to severe racism before the start of the war, and then were transported in cattle like trucks to concentration camps, and then gassed did not suffer the ultimate sacrifice by having their life taken from them, because they had no choice in the matter.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Perhaps you can point me in the direction of the post to which you refer. I have read one where they state 'equally' but where is the one where others sacrificed more.

Also your definition of sacrificed is flawed. So all the Russian civilians, women, children and the elderly who were not armed, but saw their homes destroyed, suffered severe food shortages, and witnessed many of their friends and family being killed did not sacrifice anything in the war.

It is a very strange person who believes that no sacrifice is made by countries that are invaded as opposed to those that declare war.


So we are clear about your thought process, all the millions of Jews that were subject to severe racism before the start of the war, and then were transported in cattle like trucks to concentration camps, and then gassed did not suffer the ultimate sacrifice by having their life taken from them, because they had no choice in the matter.
Simple Definition of sacrifice. : the act of giving up something that you want to keep especially in order to get or do something else or to help someone.
 


Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
7,367
Well here are pictures of 18-24 year olds, Probably both abroad.....those 18-24 year olds in the bottom photo are now the "selfish" pensioners that you sneer at.

Nice attempt at propaganda, but those who fought in the second world war aged 18-24 are now between 89 and 101. Most of that generation are dead. The generation that overwhelmingly voted Brexit are their children, the generation that was given the Welfare State, NHS, council housing, decent pensions, university grants, all the benefits provided by the 1948 Labour government and in return their majority bequeathed the sod-you-Jack Neo-liberalism of Thatcher and her ilk. Nice of them to top it with an unachievable attempt at isolation in an internationalist world.
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,229
On the Border
My wife and I already pay income tax on our various pensions-we don't mind doing our bit.In fact,we'll volunteer to pay the same as EU employees-oh wait,they pay fk all!

Why do you believe that EU employees working in the UK do not pay any income tax when their earnings are above the threshold.
 




DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 3, 2012
17,355
those selfish pensioners have had to put up with the shite from Europe since they tried to federalise it it ratherthan leave it as a trading group
I suspect that others seen one of the European masters yesterday complaining that they will not wait until the tories have chosen another leader, but did'nt mind waiting until we saved their arses in two world wars losing two generations of our young men
so whose the selfish ones there then

Putting aside what happened 70 years ago plus (which incidentally is what gave rise to the notion of European cooperation in the first place), what do you expect them to do?

We have made our bed and we have to lie in it. The rest of Europe is not going to and can not afford to hang around while we make up our minds about what next.

Farage's antagonistic play-acting yesterday will not have helped, but a group of European national leaders are not going to be affected by that. They have business to do and our relevance to it has diminished significantly.
 


Skaville

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2004
10,235
Queens Park
Thanks for that , always glad to get an expert view.

when companies starting pulling out of the country because we either have no freedom of movement of labour or tariffs on trade in the EU, the financial landscape will be different.
 






B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,726
Shoreham Beaaaach
5 days have passed.... and there are talks of another referendum...

Would you change your vote if your vote with the information you have learned since you cast your vote (e.g. the 350 million going no where near the NHS as stated by the leave campaign)

Will it still be a 48% to 52% leave victory or will a few brexiters feel cheated and vote the other way?

Will others be fearful of the future having seen the sterling plummet.

Maybe others don't want to see the UK broken up and are worried if we leave we will lose Scotland and NIreland.

Typical post from a bad 'Remain' loser that can't/won't face up to the fact that his view is WRONG on the basis of the majorty said F-Off to the EU beaurocrats and their dictatorship of this country.

Ask this Poll again in 6 months, 1 year and 2 years and you'll find a totally different response. Every single Leave campaigner and voted KNEW it was going to be tumultuous for the first few months and this was said LOUDLY by all. So right in the middle of it you post this cr@p just to try and excuse that you were WRONG on your views.

When the EU implodes in 1-5 years, lets get the same poll up again ok?

ps: I voted Leave, still say Leave and always will be Leave (no I'm not a pensioner and no I'm not a racist)
 
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goldstone

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 5, 2003
7,177
FTSE 100 closes above pre-Brexit level ... from the BBC website. So we can stop wringing our hands about the catastrophophic effect that Brexit will have on the British economy. Obviously the market rather likes it!!
 






alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Nice attempt at propaganda, but those who fought in the second world war aged 18-24 are now between 89 and 101. Most of that generation are dead. The generation that overwhelmingly voted Brexit are their children, the generation that was given the Welfare State, NHS, council housing, decent pensions, university grants, all the benefits provided by the 1948 Labour government and in return their majority bequeathed the sod-you-Jack Neo-liberalism of Thatcher and her ilk. Nice of them to top it with an unachievable attempt at isolation in an internationalist world.
Your post says it all, they put up with austerity and rationing that the present generation of complainers wouldnt believe, and helped rebuild this war ravaged country and shattered economy , they werent ''given'' much at all , and the labour government didnt ''provide'' these benefits, they WORKED for them , and it irks them to see it spunked away on such things as the EU parliament relocating for 4 days a month at a cost of £150,000,000 a year.
 
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knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,108
Obviously the sneering post that i was replying to and the point i was making have gone over your head. You obviously think like many Remainers that it is ok to insult the pensioners because they did not vote to Remain.

Move on old man. 100 years is a long time in European history. They would not be pensioners today even if they had lived. Bad choice admit it.
 






knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,108
FTSE 100 closes above pre-Brexit level ... from the BBC website. So we can stop wringing our hands about the catastrophophic effect that Brexit will have on the British economy. Obviously the market rather likes it!!

Just woken up, have we? FTSE250 down 7%. Volatile times ahead. Only one certainty. Jeremy Corbyn. :)
 




Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
7,367
And put up with austerity and rationing that the present generation of complainers wouldnt believe, and helped rebuild this war ravaged country and shattered economy , they werent ''given'' much at all , and the labour government didnt ''provide'' these benefits, they WORKED for them , and it irks them to see it spunked away on such things as the EU parliament relocating for 4 days a month at a cost of £150,000,000 a year.

Very stirring and I'm sure, like Farage, it would go down very well at the golf club. However, your maths is also out. The generation we are talking about was born post war and through the 1950s. They weren't born when their parents voted in Atlee's 1945 government and were at oldest three years old when the welfare state was created, so couldn't have 'WORKED' for their benefits. They are the adults of the 1960s: high productivity, strong industries, low unemployment, high wages, educational opportunities, high levels of social mobility. All now picked apart, sold off or thrown away by four decades of selfish, short-termist thinking.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
last thursday on issues that really mattered the EU was undemocratic, ,unaccountable, messed with our sovereignty, leaked like a sieve on security and was a basket case on mass immigration and its negative consequences.

Im fairly certain they havnt fixed it since Thursday so my vote stays the same in the imaginary second referendum
 




Brian Fantana

Well-known member
Oct 8, 2006
7,552
In the field
FTSE 100 closes above pre-Brexit level ... from the BBC website. So we can stop wringing our hands about the catastrophophic effect that Brexit will have on the British economy. Obviously the market rather likes it!!

Nothing has actually changed yet though, which is why the market has bounced back after the news of the result. Once we actually invoke Article 50, and the details of what leaving the EU actually means you will see the markets fall pretty drastically again, with no guarantee that they'll come back.
 


goldstone

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 5, 2003
7,177
Nothing has actually changed yet though, which is why the market has bounced back after the news of the result. Once we actually invoke Article 50, and the details of what leaving the EU actually means you will see the markets fall pretty drastically again, with no guarantee that they'll come back.

And you know this because ........ ??
 


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