[Misc] Will the Unions bring everyone to their knees?

[Deleted member 2719]

I can't say I've got a massive opinion one way or the other on this strike but your point about doing the strike when it will do the most damage is surely the point of it? If you want to prove that the workers are key, underpaid and that the service provided is vitally important, what better way to do it? Else it's like teachers strking in the holidays

Yes, I know but does it sit well with you when you see someone on their knees and vulnerable then the mob come in to make sure he is grounded.
That does not sit well with me, I have always had the attitude to help out and to work as one, especially in dire situations.
We are all in this together.

 

[Swansman]

Yes, I know but does it sit well with you when you see someone on their knees and vulnerable then the mob come in to make sure he is grounded.
That does not sit well with me, I have always had the attitude to help out and to work as one, especially in dire situations.
We are all in this together.

Except obviously you're not interested in helping the workers, or let them help each other. You're not "in it together" with them.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Not really. I am being told by a handful of people on the internet that I am doing something wrong. Nobody I have met in real life has ever mentioned it. Throwing litter out of the car window is widely recognized in society as wrong. This space thing is only really a problem for a few people on NSC who could concern themselves with more important things in life. Criticize away but I can’t promise to care on this one.

Putting spaces before punctuation marks is without question wrong. If people do it, that makes it no more right than the ubiquitous signs in shop windows proclaiming book's for sale and suchlike. Should of done better.

"In English, there is no space between the last word of a sentence and its question mark. For example, you would write: How are you?

The rules differ from one language to another, that’s why translators are constantly careful when translating. In French, or in Portuguese for instance, it is required to add a space between the last word of a question and the question mark itself. Therefore in French you would write: Comment allez-vous ? And in Portuguese, one would write: Foi brilhante !

This rule is applied to the exclamation mark as well."

 

[Lever]

Except obviously you're not interested in helping the workers, or let them help each other. You're not "in it together" with them.

...and this is where that drivel came from....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2012/oct/08/george-osborne-tory-conference-video

 

[Deleted member 2719]

This question is only a question if you're a massive egoist, which is kind of common (or else no right-wing politics would exist outside of Wall Street and its equivalents in different countries).

I would count the RMT as being massive egoist.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Very true, i bet there are a few on here that might change there point of view when they can't watch the beloved Albion.
Albion or the RMT, who do they actually have more passion for?

It’s their, not there.

 

[Lever]

Battle lines drawn....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPrmrqtK6Ok

 

[Lever]

I would count the RMT as being massive egoist.

... maybe concentrate on spelling first, then counting?

 

[Deleted member 2719]

How many companies would make you smile if they had the chance to treat & pay you like you're shit without it having any consequences? One company starts paying you minimum wage, you turn desperate and look for another company, but since you're desperate they know they could just do the same shit as the other company, and what you have is a race to the bottom.

I never saw you as a negative person. Perhaps after a few more years of experience in different working environments you will see where I am coming from. Apologise if that sound patronising, but it's the only way I can say it.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Except obviously you're not interested in helping the workers, or let them help each other. You're not "in it together" with them.

So your suggestion is we all get 10% increases across the Uk?
You didn't experience the 1970s did you?
Tighten your belt, you will live and learn.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

It’s their, not there.

Okay Lever.

I hope you feel better now.

 

[Swansman]

I would count the RMT as being massive egoist.

They are organising themselves so that they don't have to die at their job and so they can afford to provide their families with food and shelter.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I'm only dipping in tonight but I assume [MENTION=34242]Neville's Breakfast[/MENTION] is doing his normal 'but what about Jeremy Corbyn'. When a bright bloke like that is still struggling to findi ways to justify Johnson, you know we are at least 2/3 years away from the obvious and significant pain that's coming before anything changes

Good luck everyone (including NB)

Err, no-one mentioned Jeremy Corbyn apart from you. Perhaps you should do less assuming and more reading ?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Strike action doesn't happen regardless of them, it happens for reasons including their policy making and governance as well as international context, brexit, inflation, and all the other stuff. It has happened to different political parties in power for a variety of reasons, but it is not regardless of them. Are you seriously suggesting there is an inevitability about all things in this country regardless of our government? This is classic shy Tory unable to support the government so instead it turns into a hypothetical discussion of 'well, what would Labour do if they were in power'. Stick to who is in power and has been for 12 years, I can't believe your quoted 'most' people share your thoughts that this is completely regardless of governing party.

You have misrepresented what I said and I’m not shy. Get over yourself.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

So your suggestion is we all get 10% increases across the Uk?
You didn't experience the 1970s did you?
Tighten your belt, you will live and learn.

If the lesser paid workers get more money, they spend it, which generates work for others. If rich people get more money, they put it into tax havens which removes it from circulation.
The Conservatives call it trickle down economics but their version is different to what we think.

 

[Swansman]

So your suggestion is we all get 10% increases across the Uk?
You didn't experience the 1970s did you?
Tighten your belt, you will live and learn.

No my suggestion is that the people your siding with - politicans, CEOs, bankers, oligarchs and all the other rich upper class snobs with well paid rich upper class snob jobs gets a 10% decrease and everyone else gets a 10% increase.

I never saw you as a negative person. Perhaps after a few more years of experience in different working environments you will see where I am coming from. Apologise if that sound patronising, but it's the only way I can say it.

I'm a positive person when it comes to things I feel positive about and I'm a negative person when it comes to things I feel negative about.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

So your suggestion is we all get 10% increases across the Uk?
You didn't experience the 1970s did you?
Tighten your belt, you will live and learn.

Mate, I don't think there is anything to fight about here. Some chaps vote to strike, they strike, government will change the law so they can't do it again (I expect). Or they will call a general election with removing worker rights and union powers as part of their manifesto. We can all then have a vote on it. In the meantime, there is nothing that can be done about it. Whether you support the RMT or oppose them. It is what it is

 

[Bold Seagull]

You have misrepresented what I said and I’m not shy. Get over yourself.

Of course, it’s always going to be something when you find yourself down a blind alley.

 

[Sirnormangall]

My support for unions evaporated when my father was diagnosed with a terminal illness and our request for support / help from his union ( of which he’d been a member for more than 40 years) was ignored. In fairness the leaders of the union were probably too preoccupied in generating benefits for members in other ways eg Unite’s hotel and conference centre in Birmingham - currently subject to police investigation.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Mate, I don't think there is anything to fight about here. Some chaps vote to strike, they strike, government will change the law so they can't do it again (I expect). Or they will call a general election with removing worker rights and union powers as part of their manifesto. We can all then have a vote on it. In the meantime, there is nothing that can be done about it. Whether you support the RMT or oppose them. It is what it is

A general election, oh goody when?

Now who to vote for. errrrrrrrrrr..taps fingers on table errrrrrrrrrr. Nope can't think of a single party who I'd vote for. L know who I certainly wouldn't vote for think that's the problem for a lot of us. Love to see the end of Johnson.