[Misc] Will the Unions bring everyone to their knees?

[Deadly Danson]

Instead of striking , why not just look for a better paid job , not rocket science is it .

Always, ALWAYS the argument of the most dim witted. Christ.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

A poll has come out today which shows that 56% of the public support the rail strikers, and that 66% of people think the government has not done enough to prevent it.

You’re wrong!!!!!

Okay, how many people were polled across what demographic and how was it carried out?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Instead of striking , why not just look for a better paid job , not rocket science is it .

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Okay, how many people were polled across what demographic and how was it carried out?

Traitor.

 

[rigton70]

If you think you can do better you can do the night shift at Brighton station for £12.92 an hour.

Train Cleaner - Night Shift at Brighton Train Depot https://g.co/kgs/32fcSV

I earn less than that.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Then we could get lower paid EU migrant workers to fill in those job gaps no one here wants to do. Perhaps we should join this EU thing?

So you're endorsing slavery then boldy. Nice one.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Did someone just say something?

 

[Lever]

Did someone just say something?

It's difficult to imagine there would be anything better to come from someone who started this thread using such infantile, transparently tory-drenched language.....

 

[Deleted member 2719]

No, you are very wrong, there. Do you think corners are being cut at the GP surgery, in hospitals, when the pharmacist prepares your meds, when the cameras recording motorists on the M25 are monitored, when aircraft are prepared and flown, when food is prepared to be sold......?

And the money they tory government have splashed is ours, not theirs.

See the strike in a wider context. In itself it is a micro-event. In the wider context it is being weaponized. I am not seeing a mass groundwell of support for the RMT, even on NSC. More a bit of tutting. You are simply making it look like, in fact, this really is part of a tory strategy (which think it is). All you have done with this thread is harden the waverers into, crikey, having more sympathy for the strikers. Their cause may be weak, but the sight of Patel and Johnson fluffing each other in buttery delight at the prospect of twatting a commie is looking increasingly nauseating.

If I were you I'd sit at home and smile quietly to youself at how well Johnson is using this to dismantle socialism. I can't see, for the life of me, why you seem to be angry. In your mouldy boots, I'd be cock-a-hoop.

Yes, I do think corners are being cut, but there is a whole new subject that could go on forever more!
The thread was put up because it's main headline news and I think it's disgusting how the RMT are using when it will do maximum damage to the customer, just because they feel hard done by. As has already been said, if you don't like what you get or how your treated then move on and feel satisfied by working for a company that makes you smile rather than cry.
I have only ever been involved in one union and quite frankly it's a load of victor meldrews stirring the shite and winding up their members into action.
What a waste of human energy IMO.

 

[Springal]

I earn less than that.

Well there you go then, time for a pay rise

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Can we have a Sticky Thread explaining to posters that there's no need to put a space before punctuation marks? I know it might seem like a minor issue but it drives me mental. Just why? Is it misguided Francophilia? Predictive text malfunctions? Degenerative brain disease?

I like putting a space before a question mark. I don’t particularly like posts like yours that don’t have them but never think it important enough to comment.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

That railway union rep sounded a right kn0b on Newsnight last night. Judging by that interview I think he'd be delighted if the whole country went on strike. I found reference to key workers showed how thick he is. We are all key. The economy, welfare etc all links together. Hopefully it will be all resolved before we all need it for the opening fixture at the Amex. Thats a reminder of how much reliant and open to ransom the club are to transport in/out by train. I just think the strike will increase a backlash of violence by frustrated travellers against rail staff.

Very true, i bet there are a few on here that might change there point of view when they can't watch the beloved Albion.
Albion or the RMT, who do they actually have more passion for?

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Yes, I do think corners are being cut, but there is a whole new subject that could go on forever more!
The thread was put up because it's main headline news and I think it's disgusting how the RMT are using when it will do maximum damage to the customer, just because they feel hard done by. As has already been said, if you don't like what you get or how your treated then move on and feel satisfied by working for a company that makes you smile rather than cry.
I have only ever been involved in one union and quite frankly it's a load of victor meldrews stirring the shite and winding up their members into action.
What a waste of human energy IMO.

I can't say I've got a massive opinion one way or the other on this strike but your point about doing the strike when it will do the most damage is surely the point of it? If you want to prove that the workers are key, underpaid and that the service provided is vitally important, what better way to do it? Else it's like teachers strking in the holidays

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Why on earth did you invite a discussion from someone you believe to be a homophobic racist football hooligan?

Willfully obtuse that the government, and 12 years of Tory rule might have something to do with the industrial action. Now that is funny.

I asked him to justify a comment made with some facts. It’s kind of how a forum works. The point I was making will be clear to most people ie that industrial action takes place regardless of governing party. The inflation we are facing is global. Again, it would be happening regardless of which party is in charge. A Labour Government would be facing the same challenges coming out of the pandemic and would not be offering 10%+ ( ie matching inflation) pay rises all round to public sector workers nor promoting it in the private sector. They wouldn’t last long in power if they did because as pointed out by someone else we would then be entering a 1970s style spiral.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I like putting a space before a question mark. I don’t particularly like posts like yours that don’t have them but never think it important enough to comment.

To be fair, that's like saying that you don't think it important enough to comment when people don't throw litter out of their car window (something that you personally do like to do and for which you feel no criticism is justifiable).

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

To be fair, that's like saying that you don't think it important enough to comment when people don't throw litter out of their car window (something that you personally do like to do and for which you feel no criticism is justifiable).

Not really. I am being told by a handful of people on the internet that I am doing something wrong. Nobody I have met in real life has ever mentioned it. Throwing litter out of the car window is widely recognized in society as wrong. This space thing is only really a problem for a few people on NSC who could concern themselves with more important things in life. Criticize away but I can’t promise to care on this one.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I asked him to justify a comment made with some facts. It’s kind of how a forum works. The point I was making will be clear to most people ie that industrial action takes place regardless of governing party. The inflation we are facing is global. Again, it would be happening regardless of which party is in charge. A Labour Government would be facing the same challenges coming out of the pandemic and would not be offering 10%+ pay rises all round to public sector workers nor promoting it in the private sector. They wouldn’t last long in power if they did because as pointed out by someone else we would then be entering a 1970s style spiral.

Strike action doesn't happen regardless of them, it happens for reasons including their policy making and governance as well as international context, brexit, inflation, and all the other stuff. It has happened to different political parties in power for a variety of reasons, but it is not regardless of them. Are you seriously suggesting there is an inevitability about all things in this country regardless of our government? This is classic shy Tory unable to support the government so instead it turns into a hypothetical discussion of 'well, what would Labour do if they were in power'. Stick to who is in power and has been for 12 years, I can't believe your quoted 'most' people share your thoughts that this is completely regardless of governing party.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I asked him to justify a comment made with some facts. It’s kind of how a forum works. The point I was making will be clear to most people ie that industrial action takes place regardless of governing party. The inflation we are facing is global. Again, it would be happening regardless of which party is in charge. A Labour Government would be facing the same challenges coming out of the pandemic and would not be offering 10%+ ( ie matching inflation) pay rises all round to public sector workers nor promoting it in the private sector. They wouldn’t last long in power if they did because as pointed out by someone else we would then be entering a 1970s style spiral.

I'm only dipping in tonight but I assume [MENTION=34242]Neville's Breakfast[/MENTION] is doing his normal 'but what about Jeremy Corbyn'. When a bright bloke like that is still struggling to findi ways to justify Johnson, you know we are at least 2/3 years away from the obvious and significant pain that's coming before anything changes

Good luck everyone (including NB)

 

[Swansman]

Yes, I do think corners are being cut, but there is a whole new subject that could go on forever more!
The thread was put up because it's main headline news and I think it's disgusting how the RMT are using when it will do maximum damage to the customer, just because they feel hard done by. As has already been said, if you don't like what you get or how your treated then move on and feel satisfied by working for a company that makes you smile rather than cry.
I have only ever been involved in one union and quite frankly it's a load of victor meldrews stirring the shite and winding up their members into action.
What a waste of human energy IMO.

How many companies would make you smile if they had the chance to treat & pay you like you're shit without it having any consequences? One company starts paying you minimum wage, you turn desperate and look for another company, but since you're desperate they know they could just do the same shit as the other company, and what you have is a race to the bottom.

 

[Swansman]

Very true, i bet there are a few on here that might change there point of view when they can't watch the beloved Albion.
Albion or the RMT, who do they actually have more passion for?

This question is only a question if you're a massive egoist, which is kind of common (or else no right-wing politics would exist outside of Wall Street and its equivalents in different countries).