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Falkor

Banned
Jun 3, 2011
5,673
The only breath test that counts is the one at the station. If they didn't take her to the nick, then that itself tells you she will get away with it and believe me they get you there asap,because every second that passes, your breath count goes down and it's the second reading they have to charge on, not the first. Which is taken five minutes after the first, at the station....If she had an hour to get her story straight in her head, there is every chance she will get away with it, if someone takes the wrap and hides up somewhere, long enough to sober up.

she had about 10mins max about 20mins intotal from walking into the house to be taking to the police car.
 




kevtherev

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2008
10,467
Tunbridge Wells
she had about 10mins max about 20mins intotal from walking into the house to be taking to the police car.

She has probably held her hands up, which means she will be charged..All I was saying is that if she claimed someone else was driving and had someone to take the blame, then all they would get charged with is leaving the sence of an accident. Drink driving is very hard to prove unless to get caught behind the wheel or plead guilty....One persons word against another doesn't mean much as one could have a personal grudge. Even the old bill cant charge someone on someones say so,,,well not yet anyway.
 


huge

New member
Mar 23, 2011
310
I went out spoke to the women in the car informed her the police was on the way i explained " u just crashed into 3 cars and ur trying to drive away" she then reversed and drove away this time, then parked round corner in plain site of me and did a runner (well i say runner back to her house) the old bill spoke to me told them what i saw then told them exactly what she looked like the driver and that went and arrested her, see her get taken to police car, police came in to take a statement i said the women ya just put in ur car was the driver, she also had no insurance to add insult to the wounds.

Police said she is bang to rights tbh, there where no men in the car 3 women all pissed silly, as for revenge attack if Ishe wants intimidating a witness to her rap sheet im sure she might, even if she can remember speaking to me. Tbh i couldnt care if she called me a grass lol, pleased it was a park car a moving one we could be talking deaths now.

A friend of mine was hit by a drunk driver. The impact bounced her of the wall, other parked cars. Thrown around like a pinball. Broke loads of bones, almost lost a leg and now has a scar from forehead down her face across her eye to her cheek. Drink drivers should be ashamed. Glad no one was hurt this time.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
47,630
Ahhh, the amateur lawyers on here, always makes me smile.

If you and others have seen the woman drive, and are prepared to make a statement, and she's been evidentially breath tested and found to be over the limit then it's a virtual certainty that she'll be charged. It's not one person's word against another, it appears to be several, which is pretty damning.

Even if she continues to deny it, she'll be charged. If she's the registered keeper of the car, that adds weight, particularly if she tries to blame someone else but refuses to name them. The keys from the car are presumably in her house, which would tend to rule out someone else having stolen the car or used it without her permission. They can also examine the car forensically to see if anyone else's fingerprints are on the wheel, and if the airbag went off, it will almost certainly contain evidence that she was at the wheel. CCTV and ANPR footage around the town might show her driving too.

In short, if it's as the O/P says it is, then she has little chance of getting away with it. Drink drivers try it on all the time- the legal system is usually wise to it.
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Some people have been watching too much CSI
 




huge

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Mar 23, 2011
310
Ahhh, the amateur lawyers on here, always makes me smile.

If you and others have seen the woman drive, and are prepared to make a statement, and she's been evidentially breath tested and found to be over the limit then it's a virtual certainty that she'll be charged. It's not one person's word against another, it appears to be several, which is pretty damning.

Even if she continues to deny it, she'll be charged. If she's the registered keeper of the car, that adds weight, particularly if she tries to blame someone else but refuses to name them. The keys from the car are presumably in her house, which would tend to rule out someone else having stolen the car or used it without her permission. They can also examine the car forensically to see if anyone else's fingerprints are on the wheel, and if the airbag went off, it will almost certainly contain evidence that she was at the wheel. CCTV and ANPR footage around the town might show her driving too.

In short, if it's as the O/P says it is, then she has little chance of getting away with it. Drink drivers try it on all the time- the legal system is usually wise to it.

Copper? I have a license for this gun by the way!!
 


happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,171
Eastbourne
Very few people go "not guilty". Of those that do, few of them get found not guilty. The police and courts have heard all the excuses before and aren't taken in by any of them.

One I remember was a bloke on a callout on a Saturday night stopped for a kebab and whilst eating it he saw a bloke who was falling over drunk get into a van and drive off. He called the police and kept them updated while he followed the bloke home. Police turned up a few minutes later, went to the blokes house where he said he'd had a drink when he got home and showed a bottle of scotch.
Using the count back system they could provide evidence that he had been over the limit whilst driving and he was found guilty.
He was way over the fine level so was sent off for a report from probation with a view to a community penalty. He never turned up for the sentencing hearing...
 


Mutts Nuts

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Oct 30, 2011
4,918
No doubt arm chair lawyer kevtherev will be asking how do they know the breathalyser works.

TB

All she has to do is admit to driving the car and crashing,after parking the car she walked home and had a few whiskies because she was in shock
:albion2:
:albion2::albion2:
 




Tory Boy

Active member
Jun 14, 2004
971
Brighton
Twice the count back rule has been mentioned in this thread.

May I suggest people read up on that before giving flawed advice.

TB
 


Mutts Nuts

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Oct 30, 2011
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Twice the count back rule has been mentioned in this thread.

May I suggest people read up on that before giving flawed advice.

TB
If you are refering to my post my neighbour got away with crashing his car while over the limit less than 6 months ago,every case is different .I`m not condoning the offence but as with Murder with a good alliby you can get away with it.
 






sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
Yes was thinking that myself. Hope you won't get some drunk bitch knocking on your door and screaming in your face at 4am that you grassed her up and lost her her license! It'll be difficult to point out she did that to herself by driving pissed.

hope she doesn't pin you down a pee in your face .....honest i do....:smile:
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
she pleaded not guilty at her hearing, so court it is for me some time soon. Never been to court in my life am shitting my pants

dont worry mate, you aint in trouble ,make sure you get your expenses filled out as well..........drink driving is one thing .........being a shithouse drink driver is something else.
 


Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
she pleaded not guilty at her hearing, so court it is for me some time soon. Never been to court in my life am shitting my pants

You're not in the dock, and as far as we know 100% correct - you have nothing to fear. Good luck with it.

Presumably her breathtest showed neg - otherwise she'd not have a leg to stand on, surely ? Unless she's still pleading to be not the driver.
 




severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,825
By the seaside in West Somerset
Her solicitor will be hoping that the witnesses to the actual collisions don't turn up so that charge will be dropped for want of evidence. Amazing how often it happens.
As long as you and any other witnesses are there in court it's odds on that she will change her plea on the day.
 




Pinkie Brown

Wir Sind das Volk
Sep 5, 2007
3,637
Neues Zeitalter DDR 🇩🇪
she pleaded not guilty at her hearing, so court it is for me some time soon. Never been to court in my life am shitting my pants

Its the alleged driver that should be shitting herself not you. From what you've described her defence sounds very lightweight. If she takes it all the way & is found guilty, chances are the book will be thrown at her anyway. Judges & Magistrates tend to get cranky when somebody makes a frivolous not guilty plea.

Keep us informed. I'm curious to know what her defence is. As mentioned I suspect her lawyer is hoping the witnesses don't turn up & then if they do, change her plea at the last minute, or they have a procedural loophole up their sleeve?
 


Willy Dangle

New member
Aug 31, 2011
3,551
Ahhh, the amateur lawyers on here, always makes me smile.

If you and others have seen the woman drive, and are prepared to make a statement, and she's been evidentially breath tested and found to be over the limit then it's a virtual certainty that she'll be charged. It's not one person's word against another, it appears to be several, which is pretty damning.

Even if she continues to deny it, she'll be charged. If she's the registered keeper of the car, that adds weight, particularly if she tries to blame someone else but refuses to name them. The keys from the car are presumably in her house, which would tend to rule out someone else having stolen the car or used it without her permission. They can also examine the car forensically to see if anyone else's fingerprints are on the wheel, and if the airbag went off, it will almost certainly contain evidence that she was at the wheel. CCTV and ANPR footage around the town might show her driving too.

In short, if it's as the O/P says it is, then she has little chance of getting away with it. Drink drivers try it on all the time- the legal system is usually wise to it.

Wont stack up Edna. It was my Mrs that was driving and it was all down to PMT. That's it end of....of you go and try and calm down when your driving Mrs Twin.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,144
Goldstone
she pleaded not guilty at her hearing, so court it is for me some time soon. Never been to court in my life am shitting my pants
Is there something you're not telling us? Did you attack the women or kill someone? I can't see what there is to worry about, you're going to tell the truth, not your problem if the law works or fails, you'll just be saying what you saw and that's it.
 


Phat Baz 68

Get a ****ing life mate !
Apr 16, 2011
5,026
Drink drivers over the limit should get an automatic jail sentence of 6 months rising as to how much the limit they are over.
I have worked in many A&E depts over the years and seen dead children with missing body parts pregnant mothers dead etc etc families ripped apart because some twat has a drink and drives their car.
VERMIN !!!!
Easy solution don't drink ANY alcohol at all if you are going to drive !!!
 


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