How many others do you know that have included their charitable work in a similar case and subsequently got off in court?
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Will club ban fan even though the courts havent ?
- Thread starter Dalos
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How many others do you know that have included their charitable work in a similar case and subsequently got off in court?
Pretty pink fairy
Banned
- Jan 30, 2008
- 31,981
i don't associate myself with criminals, therefore i can't answer that question .
seagullondon
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- Mar 15, 2011
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pishhead
Well-known member
The bloke will get a 5 year club ban, the club have on numerous occasions when a conviction has not been forthcoming invoked their own form of justice.
looney
Banned
- Jul 7, 2003
- 15,652
They haven't got off for including it in the case, it was used as proof, or evidence, that the person was of good character and therefor the incident likely to be a one of. More a plea for leniancy.
Is there something wrong with people trying to be good? Obviously not, so I think people here are missing the point a bit.
Uncle Spielberg
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No and I don't think speculating who it was will serve any use.
I doubt there's any need for speculation, the person in question will have been named in the paper. Probably online too.
Uncle Spielberg
Well-known member
I am just trying to be fair to both parties.
Return of the Rev
Well-known member
Not really a hoolie is he? JUST GOT CAUGHT UP WE ALL THIS PALACE HYPE THAT HAS GONE ON
WELL DONE NSC
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
My Dad had a lodger in the late 1980's who was an avid Brighton fan , he got into "trouble" at The Goldstone and was given a lifetime ban. AFAIK the ban is still in effect.
- Jul 7, 2003
- 47,645
He used the REMF thing as a mitigating factor in the sentencing, not as part of the case itself. People will chuck in any old crap to get themselves off.
I once dealt with a horrible individual who had punched an innocent passer by in the face one night, for no other reason than because she was pissed and trying to show her mates how hard she was. The victim suffered a fractured cheekbone and an understandable loss of confidence as a result.
The perpetrator firstly denied the offence, and then, when found guilty, attempted to use the fact that she was pregnant and hopeful of securing council accommodation- she was FIFTEEN years old at the time- as evidence of her turning her life around and settling down. Now call me an old stick in the mud, but I'm not convinced getting pregnant at fifteen, still drinking, and moving out of your family home for a council flat is a sign of a reformed character, let alone any indication of settling down.
But that is the sort of stuff people will chuck before the courts in the hope of a sympathy vote. It may be- to your eyes and mine- irrelevant to the offence, but if it means getting a lesser punishment, then who can blame them for laying it on? Seems to work most of the time...
I once dealt with a horrible individual who had punched an innocent passer by in the face one night, for no other reason than because she was pissed and trying to show her mates how hard she was. The victim suffered a fractured cheekbone and an understandable loss of confidence as a result.
The perpetrator firstly denied the offence, and then, when found guilty, attempted to use the fact that she was pregnant and hopeful of securing council accommodation- she was FIFTEEN years old at the time- as evidence of her turning her life around and settling down. Now call me an old stick in the mud, but I'm not convinced getting pregnant at fifteen, still drinking, and moving out of your family home for a council flat is a sign of a reformed character, let alone any indication of settling down.
But that is the sort of stuff people will chuck before the courts in the hope of a sympathy vote. It may be- to your eyes and mine- irrelevant to the offence, but if it means getting a lesser punishment, then who can blame them for laying it on? Seems to work most of the time...
Uncle Spielberg
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I have read the Argus report. I must say the incident that happened seems to be on the very mild end of things that happened that night. I guess the person involved was swept away with it all, a few pints in his Belly, with his mates and provocation form the Palace fans. It was not a wise thing to do, he admitted that " a moment of madness " but I for one am not going to throw any stones " Glass Houses " springs to mind. The fact he used his good work for the REMF is his right as a plea for good character. He is fully allowed to do this without anyones permission. I also think it would outrageous if the club banned him for this " moment of madness " and concentrated on banning real hooligans.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Which one are you then Smashy or Nicey
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
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Ooh, You absolute hypocrite. How do you marry up that statement with this:
The Palace Conspiracy - Page 3
Uncle Spielberg
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Well done for trawling that out. How have I been a hypocrit ? I have said what he did was WRONG but in the scheme of the events that night it was pretty mild. Have you never done anything you regretted after a few beers or are you perfection personified ? It sounds like you are.
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
Who was it ?
Uncle Spielberg
Well-known member
Get the Argus if you want. I can't see the point in " outing " him.
NMH
Banned
Take into account that this aggression was associated with football support.
You are all football supporters, and to the general person who doesn't like football - it adds fuel to their fire when they say "typical football hooligan".
None of us wants to be represented by that behaviour or those types of action.
I can't belittle his contribution to REMF as a cheap aside - it's a worthy cause and rightly added to a character reference in this case (it seems so), but since he's associated his act with our club and the sport in general, it does seem as though he has risked his future associations with that.
The question then ought to be why shouldn't he get a ban from football for a while?
You are all football supporters, and to the general person who doesn't like football - it adds fuel to their fire when they say "typical football hooligan".
None of us wants to be represented by that behaviour or those types of action.
I can't belittle his contribution to REMF as a cheap aside - it's a worthy cause and rightly added to a character reference in this case (it seems so), but since he's associated his act with our club and the sport in general, it does seem as though he has risked his future associations with that.
The question then ought to be why shouldn't he get a ban from football for a while?