Why does everyone HATE Dennis Wise?

[Brighton Breezy]

They are a package ... and they are BOTH friends of Tony Bloom.

That's what worries me. Bloom might be importing the Ashley style of club ownership.

I guess we haven't got much choice. But I will still worry.

What was the alternative though? Martin Perry made it clear without Bloom, the Falmer project would not have been funded.

And as far as meddling chairman go, will Bloom REALLY be any worse than Dick Knight?

 

[Mental Lental]

It's this simple.....As long as we win it doesn't matter who the manager is. Anyone who suggests otherwise.......
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is a bellend.

 

[Acker79]

I do find it ironic all the people up in arms about Slade's vunerable position after only 5 games into a new season were probably the same ones who put so much pressure on McGhee and helped get him the sack that season after 7games with 3 wins 1 draw and 3 defeats.

... on the back of a wooden spoon relegation season (as opposed to being on the back of an end of season run of5 wins from 6)

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

We went down as the board gave McGhee NOTHING to keep us in the Championship. If he had been given a FRACTION of the Slade and even Adams was given he would have kept us in the championship.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

We went down as the board gave McGhee NOTHING to keep us in the Championship. If he had been given a FRACTION of the Slade and even Adams was given he would have kept us in the championship.

And if Wilkins had been given the cash to keep Hammond we wouldn't have had to play 723 people centre midfield in the last two seasons...

 

[Lord Bracknell]

What was the alternative though? Martin Perry made it clear without Bloom, the Falmer project would not have been funded.

True.

And as far as meddling chairman go, will Bloom REALLY be any worse than Dick Knight?

I fear so. Knight may have meddled, but he had a better understanding of football than most people. What does Bloom know about the game?

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

True.


I fear so. Knight may have meddled, but he had a better understanding of football than most people. What does Bloom know about the game?

I agree with Ed. Bloom has been waiting in the wings. When the credit crunch happened and the Banks stopped lending money we have no choice but to accept Bllom's money and all that came with it. I am grateful for sure and we
had no other option but the money has mainly come from gambling addicts whose livess may have been ruined by online gambling websites so its just up from drug dealing for me. Who would I trust more Knight 100%. DK is not only the greatest chairman this club has ever had he can be trusted and is candid and a great bloke.

Bloom after all pulled the strings for McGhee to be sacked and for that he lost credibility for me.

 

[bhaexpress]

So the fact that he is "not very nice" means we shouldn't have him as manager?

I'm not suggesting for a second we should get rid of Slade but he would be a great choice IMO. He's proven at this level and is a born winner. Knight has gone now so hopefully the time of employing the nice guy has gone too.

Face a fact, he'd be off like a shot if he got a better offer.

 

[wehatepalace]

Face a fact, he'd be off like a shot if he got a better offer.

So would the majority of ambitious managers !
Do you honestly believe if a bigger club with more money and better chance of success came sniffing around Slade, that he wouldn't be off like a shot ? Of course he would as would any one else !

 

[Acker79]

We went down as the board gave McGhee NOTHING to keep us in the Championship. If he had been given a FRACTION of the Slade and even Adams was given he would have kept us in the championship.

We'd've also survived in the championship if McGhee didn't fall out with our better players (and had coppell's ability to man-manage leon knight), and didn't keep playing a goalkeeper who kept making the same mistakes again and again.

If if's and buts were sugar and nuts...

Bloom after all pulled the strings for McGhee to be sacked and for that he lost credibility for me.

The board reacted to the fans. Knight also agreed to get rid of mcghee. Knight himself went on TV, radio, newspapers and made it clear it was his decision, he chose t fire mcghee, because he (knight) listens to the fans.

(The difference betwen the summer when knight kept mcghee, and october when knight fired mcghee, was the fans weren't just calling for mcghee to go, they were calling for mcghee and knight to go.)

Knight had the deciding vote in getting rid of McGhee, not Bloom.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I disagree Knight reluctantly fired McGhee if it were his choice entirely McGhee would not have been sacked.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

The fact McGhee was in charge when Leon Knight had his best ever season in football with 27 goals has gone over your head I assume.

 

[NMH]

The fact McGhee was in charge when Leon Knight had his best ever season in football with 27 goals has gone over your head I assume.

HE THEN PUT HIM OUT ON THE WING ALONE AND HAD HIGH BALLS PUMPED TOO LONG AND HIGH EVEN FOR A USAIN BOLT (that also went over Leon Knight's head).

Genius! (not you US. ...definitely not you)

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Your irrational hatred of McGhee is well known. Therefore all comments you make about McGhee can be discarded. After you lambasted him for having hte temerity of eating a meal in your local pub your credibility of an unbiased viewpoint on McGhee was shot.

 

[Acker79]

The fact McGhee was in charge when Leon Knight had his best ever season in football with 27 goals has gone over your head I assume.

Didn't he score the bulk of them before the end of november?

 

[Acker79]

Your irrational hatred of McGhee is well known. Therefore all comments you make about McGhee can be discarded. After you lambasted him for having hte temerity of eating a meal in your local pub your credibility of an unbiased viewpoint on McGhee was shot.

But you're the other extreme, aren't you, so can't we be equally as dismissive of your views?

 

[pork pie]

Do they? I don't.

 

[El Presidente]

Here's someone else's view

Why we hate him: Runt friend of taxi drivers and sleeping teammates everywhere.

At present Dennis Wise is still getting away with it. Somehow, he is considered a valuable member of the football community; someone who can be trusted with bringing Leeds United out of the mire and some even see him as a potential Premiership manager. Such opinions of the man will surely be short lived.

The plucky little mercenary left Swindon after three months in charge last October, taking the reins at Elland Road after Ken Bates had given Kevin Blackwell the boot. Yes, that Ken Bates, the annoying anti-Santa white-bearded ignorant oul fella who put Chelsea millions in debt before the Russians took over.

Football fans had enough reasons to dislike Leeds (racism, O’Leary, Bowyer, Alan Smith) without Bates taking over. Now that Wise is there though it seems even their own fans can’t stand the side.

Leeds are now staring squarely at the prospect of plying their trade in the third tier of English football. The Champions League semi-final earlier this decade seems a long time ago. As does the days when David O’Leary was considered a half decent manager, but surely even he would be more welcome in the Elland Road dugout than Wise.

Some of you might say that with me being a Liverpool supporter Dennis never really had a chance in my book. He did after all play for two of the Scouse side’s biggest bogey teams – Wimbledon and Chelsea. This may be true but it didn’t stop me finding a way to like Robbie Earle (before his days as a commentator); Dave Beasant (who also played for both sides) or the majority of the Chelsea team that Wise captained for several years.

Wise, with his small man’s complex included, began his reign of slightly comedic ‘terror’ in midfield at Southampton but a “disagreement” with the manager – Lawrie McMenemy – saw him leave the club. He was 18 and moved to Wimbledon where they famously won the FA Cup against some team or other. By 1990 he was seen as a decent enough prospect for Chelsea to break their transfer record and sign him for £1.6 million.

So began 11 years of the little git hacking at opponents ankles for the Stamford Bridge outfit, whenever he could reach them that is. He would win FA Cups, a Cup Winner’s Cup and a League Cup. He would play with Gullit, Vialli and Zola among others and, let’s be honest here, generally wasn’t all that bothersome during that time.

You see, and I only realised this when I started writing this particular Okeydokefootball Hate, you don’t dislike Dennis Wise until you stop and are forced to take notice of him.

When he was a Chelsea player you could forget about his presence and concentrate on the other elements that made the team so watchable during his period there. You could ignore his cockney claptrap in interviews and wait for Zola to say something gracious.

Okay, I suppose there were times he stood out as the considerable prick he could be both on the pitch and off it. In 1995 he was convicted of assaulting a London taxi-driver and given a three-month prison sentence, which was later overturned on appeal.

Then there was that incident in 1999 when he was accused of biting Marcelino Elena of RCD Mallorca in a Cup Winners' Cup tie. In the 1998-99 season he missed a total of 15 games through suspension. Plenty of ankles kicked, very little good football played; best ignored this bloke.

But it was once he left he headed for smaller sides and found them to be goldfish bowls that he was exposed as a distasteful little fool. He left for Leicester in 2001 and his online biography states this was a “less successful” time in his life.

So that’s how you put making 17 league appearances before being sacked by the club in September 2002 after fracturing team-mate Callum Davidson's jaw with a punch (delivered by brave little Dennis while Davidson slept) on a pre-season tour of Finland. This incident and his subsequent failed claim of unfair dismissal saw Wise become one of the most hated men in the game by Leicester fans. We understand.

Theo Paphitis, chairman of Millwall, saw something he liked in Wise however and made him player-manager. Perhaps he looked at Millwall’s fanbase, looked at Wise, thought of the words ‘chip on shoulder’ and put two and two together. To be fair, they mixed for a while as Wise guided them to the FA Cup final in 2004 – their first ever – where they were beaten to a pulp by Man United.

The score said 3-0 but it could have been ten, while Wise was incredibly lucky to stay on the pitch, throwing himself into tackles left right and centre, all of which seemed to result in free kicks. One yellow came, amazingly no red followed no matter how many times he clattered into United’s midfield determined to leave a frankly pathetic mark on the game. They were beaten, well beaten, and Wise’s time as a top player were most certainly gone.

He would move full circle back to Southampton after a disagreement with the new Millwall board at the end of the 2004-05 season, joining them a free transfer during the summer of 2005. He made 12 league appearances for them before ‘Appy ‘Arry Redknapp resigned to kiss and make up with Portsmouth. Wise was then briefly joint temporary manager of the club with Dave Bassett.

However, he left the club in December 2005 when the club decided to appoint George Burley as the new manager. Wise, the board felt, was presuming too much about getting the position, and obviously they looked at his patchy league record at Millwall rather than the glitz and uber-violence of the FA Cup final appearance.

A spell at Coventry followed where he played some decent football before joining Swindon with fellow former Chelsea star Gus Poyet by his side as assistant manager. But, as mentioned before, the two left for Yorkshire where they are now carefully dismantling the stature of Leeds United FC.

Wise says he wants a return to the ‘dirty’ Leeds of the past while the club’s legends turn away in disgust. He signed up Tore André Flo, another ex Stamford Bridge man, to help out the strike-force. It hasn’t worked, and despite the fact that they have the excellent Norn Iron forward David Healy amongst their ranks, they should be relegated.

Bates, Wise and Leeds may be together for a while yet, an inflated sense of their own importance may bond them together for some time in fact. Glancing back to the recent past, Wise once said that his sacking at Leicester was a “disgrace”, so we can add self-delusional in his case as well. Sorry Leeds fans, the third division couldn’t happen to a nicer fella.

 

[Napper]

Some right twats on here.

So the general feeling from Wise dislikers is he was a dirty little git as a player.

WHO GIVES A f*** ?

We don't all lie in a fluffy PC world where everyone works to the rules all the time...get over it! Wise and all the attention it would be would be great. Us against the world !

That said, Slade doesnt deserve to go before christmas

 

[Don Quixote]

He will never be our manager anyway so who gives a f***?