[Misc] Why Christianity needs to give its head a wobble

[GJN1]

When was Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ born? December 25th, right? That's what we've all agreed, whether it's accurate or not.

Fair enough.

When did he die and come back from the dead? Easter, correct?

Last year, Easter Sunday was March 31st.

This year, it's April 20th.

So why do take one date as gospel but the other is a moveable chocolate feast?

Is it because it's all Horlicks? Or is there a genuine reason?

 

[jcdenton08]

When was Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ born? December 25th, right? That's what we've all agreed, whether it's accurate or not.

Fair enough.

When did he die and come back from the dead? Easter, correct?

Last year, Easter Sunday was March 31st.

This year, it's April 20th.

So why do take one date as gospel but the other is a moveable chocolate feast?

Is it because it's all Horlicks? Or is there a genuine reason?

Just a tiny bit of research would’ve answered this question, regardless of one’s religious (or not) beliefs…

 

[GJN1]

Just a tiny bit of research would’ve answered this question, regardless of one’s religious (or not) beliefs…

Yeah, can't be arsed.

 

[Coldeanseagull]

I regard 25th December get new stuff day and Easter weekend is binge on chocolate eggs day!
Anything else that supposedly happened on these dates is purely coincidental

 

[WATFORD zero]

I regard 25th December get new stuff day and Easter weekend is binge on chocolate eggs day!
Anything else that supposedly happened on these dates is purely coincidental

Only three proper traditional British days, those two and Lewes inbreds day

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

Both events happened around 1500 years before the calendar that we use in the West was established.

Also the sources for either event are sketchy at best.

Lastly, judging from my local supermarket, Easter now starts as soon as the Xmas clearance stock has gone and lasts until the weather holds the slightest whiff of BBQ time.

 

[Coldeanseagull]

Only three proper traditional British days, those two and Lewes inbreds day

I don't know what the last one is?
The third one in my book would be the annual give me money on the anniversary of my birth day

 

[Comrade Sam]

Please try not to confuse religion with logic. Christmas depends on which version of Christianity you follow. Even though all serious historians and theologians agree that the nativity story was not about Jesus and is much older. For Easter Christians locate it wherever Jews have Passover.
Ideally do not bring religion into Father Christmas time and excessive chocolate time.

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

I don't know what the last one is?
The third one in my book would be the annual give me money on the anniversary of my birth day

They are refering to national scare the pets night in November, which lasts on and off, weather dependent, from national begging with menaces night until all A&E departments are fully stocked with horrific burns victims (to keep those shirkers busy until flu season kicks in).

 

[Coldeanseagull]

They are refering to national scare the pets night in November, which lasts on and off, weather dependent, from national begging with menaces night until all A&E departments are fully stocked with horrific burns victims (to keep those shirkers busy until flu season kicks in).

Ah, yeah....with you

 

[brighton_tom]

 

[Eeyore]

When was Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ born? December 25th, right? That's what we've all agreed, whether it's accurate or not.

Fair enough.

When did he die and come back from the dead? Easter, correct?

Last year, Easter Sunday was March 31st.

This year, it's April 20th.

So why do take one date as gospel but the other is a moveable chocolate feast?

Is it because it's all Horlicks? Or is there a genuine reason?

I'm pretty sure that some historians reckon Jesus would have been born in September around AD4, all factors considered. An example being that shepherds would not have been watching their flocks in mid-winter. December 25th is merely a ritual that was stolen from others traditions. There is no evidence to support it.

Again, all factors of evidence considered, the favourite date for his death is April 3, AD33

 

[beorhthelm]

the irony here is the crucifixion is tied to a documented event, linked to passover which moves with moon cycle. the date changes as the year of the event is unknown.

meanwhile a completely made up event is given a fixed date.

 

[jcdenton08]

meanwhile a completely made up event is given a fixed date.

Well, partly made up. Most agree Jesus existed and therefore was born at some point. It’s the “origin story” which doesn’t necessarily ring true to many

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

I would suggest this is where multiculturalism really wins. I have some Greek friends who often have Easter a week later, so double chocolate time for me. Let alone gate crashing Ramadan and Diwali celebrations for extra sweet treats later in the year.

Also some cultures exchange Xmas gifts on Xmas eve and on other days so bonus pressie days there.

And for fans of birthdays, many Catholic countries also celebrate their name day with bonus presents and parties then. Just make sure you have the same name as a saint. Any saint will do.

Honourable mentions also to getting in on a Chinese New Year party for top notch scran. And why not hang with a Scot to really go big about some dead poet, haggis optional?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

When was Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ born? December 25th, right? That's what we've all agreed, whether it's accurate or not.

Fair enough.

When did he die and come back from the dead? Easter, correct?

Last year, Easter Sunday was March 31st.

This year, it's April 20th.

So why do take one date as gospel but the other is a moveable chocolate feast?

Is it because it's all Horlicks? Or is there a genuine reason?

I'll bite. His date of birth is unknown, so a date was chosen.

Easter follows the Passover, which is a Jewish festival. That is decided by the first full moon after the 21st March.
In your research, look up the Last Supper, ie the Passover meal.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I'm not really sure you can point your finger simply at the Christians on this. Basing religious celebrations or events on the lunar calendar seems to be quite common.

Ramadan, Diwali and Hanukkah all move depending on what the moon is doing. Maybe Christmas is the outlier, not Easter.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I'm not really sure you can point your finger simply at the Christians on this. Basing religious celebrations or events on the lunar calendar seems to be quite common.

Ramadan, Diwali and Hanukkah all move depending on what the moon is doing. Maybe Christmas is the outlier, not Easter.

The Chinese New Year is also a Lunar event.

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

Dammit forgot about the US ones where they celebrate genocide by eating too much turkey and then going shopping.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Too much religion creeping into Xmas and Easter nowadays