[Albion] Why Are We So Wasteful?

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The Fits

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Jun 29, 2020
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I tell you one thing. At least we don't have Werner. Wowsies that boy is struggling.
 




The Fits

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Jun 29, 2020
10,106
Re: Murray. He could play for Crawley (who've just lost their number 9) and train with us every now and then. Clearly his presence on the training field at least occasionally would be a good thing.
 


ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,347
(North) Portslade
Re: Murray. He could play for Crawley (who've just lost their number 9) and train with us every now and then. Clearly his presence on the training field at least occasionally would be a good thing.

Think Covid rules would make that impossible.
 




Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
23,582
Brighton
If Potter can switch this mentality, we’ll be on the verge of something very special. Especially with the exciting team we’re building for next season.

I thought Connolly looked fantastic in the 1st half of the Wolves game. Really intelligent runs, a superb poached finish and an overhead kick that was executed to almost perfection but was just too close the keeper. If he can go on a scoring run and get some confidence, he is certainly a 15+ EPL goals per season man based on the number of chances that we could provide him. I’m hoping he is ready for Fulham.
 




Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
I'm sure they do, but how much? Maupay should be practicing his shooting from 8a.m. to 6.30pm every day in training. Well he would be if I was manager. A bit of Brian Clough direct speaking/action really is what is needed now. Then, if he still doesn't improve, sell and replace him.

Or not. At current rate he is going to score 13 or 14 PL goals this season, pretty good.
 


deslynhamsmoustache1

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Apr 25, 2010
894
RAF Tangmere
So true.

We are due to give some team an almighty walloping.
Even yesterday, as I said in the match day thread, we could have conceivably scored 5.

This is happening too often and becoming the norm psychologically. You do wonder, if we do suddenly have a couple of games where we convert and absolutely pulverise a team by 5 or 6, if may flick a switch mentally with our players. And let’s not forget, we have a very very young squad here. Aside from Dunk. even the most experienced (Welbeck, Lallana) are hardly playing.

If Potter can switch this mentality, we’ll be on the verge of something very special. Especially with the exciting team we’re building for next season.

And that's the rub isn't it, can potter switch this mentality ?
 


One Love

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Aug 22, 2011
4,486
Brighton
If you look at the xG stats, we are 4th at missing most chances.

We are also 2nd at conceding goals up the other end from opponent's chances.

The combination of the two makes us 2nd in the table for points dropped because of the combination of the two. Only Sheffield Utd are worse. And we are well clear of third.

Southampton are by far the most clinical but so would we be if we had Ings and Ward-Prowse for set-pieces.
 




Charity Shield 1910

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Jan 4, 2021
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I thought Connolly looked fantastic in the 1st half of the Wolves game. Really intelligent runs, a superb poached finish and an overhead kick that was executed to almost perfection but was just too close the keeper. If he can go on a scoring run and get some confidence, he is certainly a 15+ EPL goals per season man based on the number of chances that we could provide him. I’m hoping he is ready for Fulham.

I like Connolly but he's another one who trusts to luck by blasting it in the general direction of the goal most of the time. No idea what they teach them in training.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Be careful not to put words into people's mouths. I didn't say he was my favourite manager. I did however note that he won two Champions Leagues with a club the size of Forest and so he might be someone to learn something from. I also would agree with that sentiment. Players win matches. Clough knew that and was well ahead of his time in pass / move football. He also once told his centre forward " I dont pay you to take corners, I pay you to score goals, now get in the box". Common sense can get someone a long way, the problem is that it is not very common.

Forest was a big club in the 70s. Don’t compare them to today’s oil rich teams.
Clough was good but he was big headed & bombastic. He failed at Brighton and Leeds.

You keep criticising the training so can you tell us what badges you have?
 




Charity Shield 1910

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Forest was a big club in the 70s. Don’t compare them to today’s oil rich teams.
Clough was good but he was big headed & bombastic. He failed at Brighton and Leeds.

Point of accuracy - Forest were not a big club. They were a club in the second division when Clough took over. The rest I agree with, but you can't always succeed everywhere. Do people have things to learn from him, yes. The important thing is who, what and when.
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Clough made players believe they were better than they were and often completely destroyed them too. He only had the stick not the carrot. With the wages players are on these days they need better handling, shouting at and humiliating them in public no longer works. They’ll take the 100k a week and train with the kids or sit in the bench quite happily it seems. Ambition seems to take a hit when you are being paid obscene amounts of money in many cases.
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
12,026
I'm sure they do, but how much? Maupay should be practicing his shooting from 8a.m. to 6.30pm every day in training. Well he would be if I was manager. A bit of Brian Clough direct speaking/action really is what is needed now. Then, if he still doesn't improve, sell and replace him.

His shooting accuracy is pretty good 41% (same as Murray)

The problem I have with him is the number of times he fails to get a shot away/on target when well set.
I'm not sure shooting practice will solve this problem (or whether it gets measured in stats)
 




Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
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Plymouth
Sorry if this opinion has been posted elsewhere.
Listening to Potter being interviewed and asked about the Biss goal, he did not seem very happy about it, he said it was a good goal but he intimated that he keeps shooting from distance but with no result but this time "you can't argue with him".
That is what I got from it anyway.
I think he would have been much happier that on getting the ball, 3 lay off passes and a tap in to an empty net and he would have been far happier.
Does this remind anyone of another manager?
The playing out from the back, multiple passing holding possesion, passing around the box and a pass into the net.
Also corners and free kicks being of treated as getting in the way of the game plan.
It reminds me so much of Arsenal under Wenger.
Trouble is, if you want to play that way you have to have the players to be able to do it otherwise PL players and managers will eat you up.
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Sorry if this opinion has been posted elsewhere.
Listening to Potter being interviewed and asked about the Biss goal, he did not seem very happy about it, he said it was a good goal but he intimated that he keeps shooting from distance but with no result but this time "you can't argue with him".
That is what I got from it anyway.
I think he would have been much happier that on getting the ball, 3 lay off passes and a tap in to an empty net and he would have been far happier.
Does this remind anyone of another manager?
The playing out from the back, multiple passing holding possesion, passing around the box and a pass into the net.
Also corners and free kicks being of treated as getting in the way of the game plan.
It reminds me so much of Arsenal under Wenger.
Trouble is, if you want to play that way you have to have the players to be able to do it otherwise PL players and managers will eat you up.

Has to be said that Arsenal have gone backwards since Wenger was hounded out. Although frustrating I much prefer watching us trying to walk the ball into the net rather than having one or two shots a game whilst defending like our lives depended on it for 87 mins

Don’t bother responding “I love a great defender over anything else” [MENTION=4934]One Teddy Maybank[/MENTION] :lolol:
 


raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
7,123
Wiltshire
Sorry I missed...but the ball just slipped off my boot.
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Charity Shield 1910

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Jan 4, 2021
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His shooting accuracy is pretty good 41% (same as Murray)

The problem I have with him is the number of times he fails to get a shot away/on target when well set.
I'm not sure shooting practice will solve this problem (or whether it gets measured in stats)

I see him shoot without any clue where the keeper is. Smacking the ball as hard as he can without first clocking where the keeper is, might under the stats come in as "on target" but it's less than useless. No bloody idea what they teach them in training. They all do it.
 




Doonhamer7

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Jun 17, 2016
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Did any of our current coaching team played as a striker? Do other clubs have specialist striker coaches?
 


BRIGHT ON Q

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Jul 5, 2003
9,234
Sorry if this opinion has been posted elsewhere.
Listening to Potter being interviewed and asked about the Biss goal, he did not seem very happy about it, he said it was a good goal but he intimated that he keeps shooting from distance but with no result but this time "you can't argue with him".
That is what I got from it anyway.
I think he would have been much happier that on getting the ball, 3 lay off passes and a tap in to an empty net and he would have been far happier.
Does this remind anyone of another manager?
The playing out from the back, multiple passing holding possesion, passing around the box and a pass into the net.
Also corners and free kicks being of treated as getting in the way of the game plan.
It reminds me so much of Arsenal under Wenger.
Trouble is, if you want to play that way you have to have the players to be able to do it otherwise PL players and managers will eat you up.

I don't get that with Bissouma, so what ,he missed a couple but then scores, most of our other promising build ups end up with dithering about and not even a shot at goal.
 


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