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[Misc] Who taps us on the shoulder and says "time you stopped driving old fruit"?



Worried Man Blues

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2009
7,295
Swansea
I knew a retd Commander RN who drove up to 97 without problems.
Getting old doesn’t necessarily equate with getting useless, and any insurance company will tell you, it’s the under 25s who are dangerous.
Aviva came out with a survey and found out that the older you are the more convinced you are that you are correct and the more likely you are to be wrong!!
 




Boroseagull

Well-known member
Aug 23, 2003
2,148
Alhaurin de la Torre
Hit 70 here and it's a compulsory full medical (general health, height/weight ratio, eyesight, hearing) plus a reaction test before to pass before being able to renew your licence. Pass with flying colours and it's renewed for 5 years and later every 2 years as age progresses. Every town has a policlinic approved by DGT for the medical (equivalent to DVLA) and the price is approx 25 euros. Surely the safest way?
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aviva came out with a survey and found out that the older you are the more convinced you are that you are correct and the more likely you are to be wrong!!
An insurance survey says…

My last prang was 1982. My other half is younger than me, still working, and had two prangs in 8 years. The insurance is in my name.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,193
Faversham
I’m almost 76, and in the process of my second three year renewal, it’s difficult doing shopping without a car, with medical reasons why I can’t do heavy lifting. Fortunately my other half does that. I know my limitations now, and only drive locally, as I have problems with night driving due to cataracts regrowing. I will be having laser treatment soon.
You have just reminded me - there is an 'every 3 years' assessment for the over 70s. How onerous is it? My neighbour and pal with whom I watch telly football is 78 and massively paperwork-averse so I am assuming it isn't much more than a box tick. Perhaps that is sufficient. What do you think?
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,193
Faversham
Hit 70 here and it's a compulsory full medical (general health, height/weight ratio, eyesight, hearing) plus a reaction test before to pass before being able to renew your licence. Pass with flying colours and it's renewed for 5 years and later every 2 years as age progresses. Every town has a policlinic approved by DGT for the medical (equivalent to DVLA) and the price is approx 25 euros. Surely the safest way?
That sounds great!
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
You have just reminded me - there is an 'every 3 years' assessment for the over 70s. How onerous is it? My neighbour and pal with whom I watch telly football is 78 and massively paperwork-averse so I am assuming it isn't much more than a box tick. Perhaps that is sufficient. What do you think?
I think there should be proof the person has had regular eye tests every two years, and a reference number given by the optician.
Ideally a medical by a GP but getting to see one now is virtually impossible.
 


Coldeanseagull

Opinionated
Mar 13, 2013
8,361
Coldean
I would think I’m in the minority here but I think the fact you get lessons and pass your test once in your lifetime is crazy, we should all have to redo our test every decade.
And being check tested every three years.
Since I gave up being an ADI, even my driving has deteriorated somewhat....not much cos I'm brilliant at everything, but enough for me to tut at myself
 






BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,458
WeHo
My stepdad is 79 and a terrifying driver. Goes about 50 on the motorway and seem obvious to what is going on around him. Thing is he thinks everyone else is a terrible driver and moans while they drive.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
My stepdad is 79 and a terrifying driver. Goes about 50 on the motorway and seem obvious to what is going on around him. Thing is he thinks everyone else is a terrible driver and moans while they drive.
Who is going to tell him? Who would he listen to?

My family would tell me, so I’m not being arrogant enough to say I’m safe enough.
 




Worried Man Blues

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2009
7,295
Swansea
Dad asked grandad why he was driving so slowly, he said there was a sign back there saying 35mph. Dad said that was for a bend, grandad well I haven't seen anything to change that! So they carried on at 35mph.....................both no longer driving or living!
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,193
Faversham
Who is going to tell him? Who would he listen to?

My family would tell me, so I’m not being arrogant enough to say I’m safe enough.
Precisely! But what if you lived alone?

One of my neighbours is in his early 70s. Lives alone. Was an industrial chemist and retired with a very good pension. He paid about £60K for an all electric Jag a few years ago. I got to drive it during Covid when he need a driver to take him to London for heart surgery. Amazing car.

Unfortunately he is a diabolical driver. A few weeks ago, in his upgrade (an £80K electric limo) he drove us home from a meal, and randomly slammed on. Even at only around 15 mph I got a nasty whiplash jolt that lingered for several days. He gave some spurious explanation that the card stopped by itself, but... and on the same journey he dithered so long at an intersection the people behind us were honking their horns.

More recently we noticed that he has a gouge the runs the entire length of the driver side. Both doors and front and rear panels will need to be replaced. He claims that a car drive to close to him on the motorway so he took evasive action and scraped the barrier. But....the scrape is on the wrong side of the car.....

Dave is very compos mentis, his usual arch and sharp self, but his driving is shit. Maybe it always was. I've only known him 10 years or so. Someone probably needs to suggest he considers his (driving) position. If I don't do it I'm not sure who will. :down:
 






dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
55,593
Burgess Hill
My dad didn't learn to drive until he was in his late 30s and always had mopeds. He gave up the moped when he got to 75 years old. He was 82 this year and although he is still on the insurance (my mum is 76) he rarely drives and only keeps it just in case because where they live at the moment has very limited public transport. They want to move back to Sussex and when they do, he will stop driving and rely on public transport and his mobility scooter.

However, don't be fooled into thinking those with mobility scooters can't cause traffic issues. On Tuesday, I went to go into Burgess Hill town centre at lunchtime and got held up in a traffic queue behind a man driving his scooter along the roads - not to one side but in the middle of the lane so nobody could get past easily.

When I drove out of Burgess Hill later that afternoon, the same bloke was driving in the middle of the inside lane along the A2300 dual carriageway towards Hickstead😲
That was probably my aforementioned neighbour who had his driving licence taken away. Proper bloody menace around BH town now on his scooter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 


AlbionBro

Well-known member
Jun 6, 2020
1,400
I knew a retd Commander RN who drove up to 97 without problems.
Getting old doesn’t necessarily equate with getting useless, and any insurance company will tell you, it’s the under 25s who are dangerous.
Well that is great going, but why have you added his profession in? I am sure there are working men and women without titles that have driven safely at the same age.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Well that is great going, but why have you added his profession in? I am sure there are working men and women without titles that have driven safely at the same age.
Because I don't know any. Most ordinary working men and women have died by then, or can't afford a car anymore.
 


Yrendan

New member
Jun 25, 2024
5
If there are changes, it could mean more frequent checks or evaluations for drivers over a certain age. As for relying on others to judge your driving, it's always a tough call.
 




Withdean South Stand

Well-known member
Mar 2, 2014
646
A drivers license should only ever last 10 years. I couldn't care less how unpopular that would be - the number of morons on the road is insane. They need to get off the road and get on a bus or a train. The other thing about re-taking the test every 10 years is that they can adjust the test, so you should have to prove you understand the flow of traffic on a motorway and that you're not just going to sit in the middle lane forever. You should have to prove you know what a roundabout is for, how the priority works and how you obey the lanes when using one. It's clear that the standard of driving in this country is far too low and we should get serious about correcting it.

That said, until it is mandatory I probably won't put myself through taking another test!
 


happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,180
Eastbourne
Unfortunately older drivers sometimes can't be told, even by those who care most about them, and need a (metaphorical) kick up the arse. We had a guy in court for careless driving. He was in his 80s, clean license for 60+ years, pillar of the community etc.
He'd gone into town, tried to park in a space and, in front of a traffic warden, had bashed the cars front and back several times while trying to get into the (reportedly quite large) space.
His son was with him and, before we heard the case, came into court and said "please disqualify him, we've tried but he won't have it. We're worried it will be worse next time".
The old feller was quite embarrassed at having to go to court. Unfortunately we couldn't disqualify as it wasn't within the guidelines but I had a chat with him and asked him how he would feel if, next time, he was in front of a real judge because he'd run over a child. Felt a bit shit about having to say that but he said "I'm going to have to give up aren't I ?"
I told him that it was probably for the best.

If only getting the M-i-L to give up had been as easy....
 


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