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[Misc] Who taps us on the shoulder and says "time you stopped driving old fruit"?



BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,505
WeHo
A drivers license should only ever last 10 years. I couldn't care less how unpopular that would be - the number of morons on the road is insane.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. The Highway Code has changed a bit in the past 50 years! No politicians will propose though for fear of it being unpopular and losing them votes.
 




rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
5,031
My late dad was a driver all his life (RAF, delivery and then three decades as a cabbie).

He woke up one day and said "I've been driving all my life and never had a serious accident. I'm not pushing my luck any more". And he handed back his licence to the DVLA. He knew his reactions were slowing down and his eyesight wasn't as good as it once was.

It's a shame more don't take personal responsibility. Living in Worthing I see the old dears, struggling to see over the dashboard, and crawling along at 10mph, usually with an indicator or hazards flashing away, almost every day. The OB should be far more proactive in getting these dangerous fools off the road.
 


thedonkeycentrehalf

Moved back to wear the gloves (again)
Jul 7, 2003
9,412
That was probably my aforementioned neighbour who had his driving licence taken away. Proper bloody menace around BH town now on his scooter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If he poodles around wearing a big straw sun hat then it was him:cool:
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,616
Goldstone
So what happens when you don't have a caring and attentive family at hand?

For many people, they'd lose the ability to look after themselves before they lost the ability to drive, so at some point someone would notice and they'd get taken into care (or they'd die of neglect).
 








hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,841
Chandlers Ford
My neighbour was driving up to 90. His car was always getting odd new scrapes and dents (caused by ‘people in Tescos car park’ according to him). Was very upset when he got a text from his GP telling him that DVLA were going to be told that his licence should be suspended as he’d been confirmed with dementia, but they did everyone else a favour really
Putting aside the fact that it was obviously the correct decision, I think a lot of people would be upset to receive such a seismic bit of news in an unsolicited TEXT message. That does seem a bit poor, tbh.
 


dazzer6666

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
56,052
Burgess Hill
Putting aside the fact that it was obviously the correct decision, I think a lot of people would be upset to receive such a seismic bit of news in an unsolicited TEXT message. That does seem a bit poor, tbh.
100%. Poor chap was desperately upset.......came round in tears asking me what it really meant.
 




Withdean South Stand

Well-known member
Mar 2, 2014
648
My late dad was a driver all his life (RAF, delivery and then three decades as a cabbie).

He woke up one day and said "I've been driving all my life and never had a serious accident. I'm not pushing my luck any more". And he handed back his licence to the DVLA. He knew his reactions were slowing down and his eyesight wasn't as good as it once was.

It's a shame more don't take personal responsibility. Living in Worthing I see the old dears, struggling to see over the dashboard, and crawling along at 10mph, usually with an indicator or hazards flashing away, almost every day. The OB should be far more proactive in getting these dangerous fools off the road.
Very responsible from your late Father. He sounds like my late father, who was always passionate about driving and did it professionally for decades. He was an excellent driver but he told me he was concerned he was losing his ability and confidence and would I sit in the car with him for a drive. It was the last time he drove, he was awful and I put a stop to it when he got flustered by a bus turning which didn't impact him at all but which he reacted to so much he almost mounted the pavement.

Some people know when to hand it back in and stop, others need someone to take it from them and throw it on a bonfire.

Ultimately, what really concerns me, is how many people only have their license taken off them after an accident which was inevitable and avoidable. :(
 


dazzer6666

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
56,052
Burgess Hill
Very responsible from your late Father. He sounds like my late father, who was always passionate about driving and did it professionally for decades. He was an excellent driver but he told me he was concerned he was losing his ability and confidence and would I sit in the car with him for a drive. It was the last time he drove, he was awful and I put a stop to it when he got flustered by a bus turning which didn't impact him at all but which he reacted to so much he almost mounted the pavement.

Some people know when to hand it back in and stop, others need someone to take it from them and throw it on a bonfire.

Ultimately, what really concerns me, is how many people only have their license taken off them after an accident which was inevitable and avoidable. :(
My folks did the same - when they moved from deepest (no public transport of any practical use in their village) Devon to Basingstoke, and dad wasn't well anyway (legally allowed to drive but didn't feel he was 'safe'), and my mum was terrified by what she saw as extremely busy roads with which she was completely unfamiliar, they got rid of the car as they realised getting into town was easy by bus or cheap by taxi, and they were barely using it anyway.
 


portlock seagull

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2003
17,931
My folks did the same - when they moved from deepest (no public transport of any practical use in their village) Devon to Basingstoke, and dad wasn't well anyway (legally allowed to drive but didn't feel he was 'safe'), and my mum was terrified by what she saw as extremely busy roads with which she was completely unfamiliar, they got rid of the car as they realised getting into town was easy by bus or cheap by taxi, and they were barely using it anyway.
How sensible and to be applauded. But utterly the exception in my experience dealing with numerous oldies. They will not give up, and go on and on, no amount of logic and persuasion works. All stubborn beyond words and refuse to listen to reason. In my Dads case had to take keys off/authorities involved and very nearly Police. I know others who have killed other round users and only then surrender their drivers licence. Obviously too late by then. Old people can be absolute ****s about driving.
 




BrianB

Sleepy Mid Sussex
Nov 14, 2020
484
On a slightly lesser note, we went down from 2 cars to one once we had both retired. we live five minutes walk away from the main bus route between Winchester and Southampton, and there is a station five minutes walk away - only head a branch line, but……. We also have electric Bikes.
EBikes are definitely a bonus worth buying..
 


BrianB

Sleepy Mid Sussex
Nov 14, 2020
484
An idea maybe worth consideration - at 70 having a compulsory day course similar to the Speed awareness course but concentrating on slowing reaction times, repeat every 5-10years.
 


jackanada

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2011
3,523
Brighton
My grandmother was driving up until months before popping her clogs at 99.
Shouldn't have been driving for at least the last 15 years of that but as she literally only drove 500 yards to the supermarket or 500 yards to her daughter's nobody intervened.
It did help that she lived in a small town where pretty much everyone knew her.
I went to the aforementioned supermarket with her once and it was noticable that the vast majority of other road users rapidly got well out of her way.
 




BluesRockDJ

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2020
1,330
No one mentioning drivers at the other end of the age scale, who are arguably more irresponsible than us "oldies" ?
PS Japan are planning a deal where drivers over 70 are being offered a deal, where they hand over their licence, in excchange for the government to pay 50% of their funeral costs !
 


Lindfield by the Pond

Well-known member
Jan 10, 2009
1,931
Lindfield (near the pond)
My wife's car was written off by an aged driver. Fortunately it was parked (legally) at the time but the old fella smashed into the back of it, and he went through the hedge of neighbours front garden.
With the noise and commotion, the neighbour came out to find the elderly fella cussing his wife for not telling him the car was parked there. Turns out he was practically blind, and relied on his wife to warn / direct him. Fortunately no-one was hurt. Police removed his license.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
No one mentioning drivers at the other end of the age scale, who are arguably more irresponsible than us "oldies" ?
PS Japan are planning a deal where drivers over 70 are being offered a deal, where they hand over their licence, in excchange for the government to pay 50% of their funeral costs !
I did earlier in the thread but it ruins the anecdotes of dopey old pensioners.
 


alanfp

Active member
Feb 23, 2024
114
He was an excellent driver but he told me he was concerned he was losing his ability and confidence and would I sit in the car with him for a drive.
Thankfully my father had exactly the same attitude. As a 90 yr old, he took me out for a 20 minute drive on mixed roads/junctions etc. ..... and drove perfectly!
But he would have given up if I had told him he should.

Until then I had just assumed that he was driving OK because there were never any dents/scratches on his car. Maybe we, as offspring, should implement short rides out like this until the govt. gets around to enforcing re-tests on oldies.
 






Blue3

Well-known member
Jan 27, 2014
5,852
Lancing
I think this is long overdue

I am 64 and my reaction time, eye sight and general health are not what they were when I was 17 however I do think my decision making is better decreasing my acceptance of risk.

I have only taken one driving test in 45 years although I did undertake a driving assessment for work probably 20 years ago.

cars have become far more technical and generally much safer with electric cars being as far removed from a 1970’s cortina as it could be.

My Dad in old age was a danger to himself driving, less so to others as he was so slow I don't think him hitting anything would have done much damage, I and others advised him to stop driving which understandably he was reluctant to take as being without transport would Massively reduce his world .
In the end the decision was taken by the fire brigade who attended a car incident involving my dad no one was injured and his car had very minor damage I am convinced that having spoken to my dad still sitting in the car at this stage that they made the decision for him as such they cut his car into bits in my opinion as a training exercise to free him when he was not trapped in anyway.

I think we should have to sit a driving refresh course including use of safer driving aids and driving assessment at retirement age which include proof of an eye test and appropriate glasses to drive safely.
Our cars need a yearly MOT so should the drivers
 


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