[Politics] Which action do you think has been de Pfeffel's most egregious, to date?

[Lower West Stander]

I get all the Brexit comments (I was a remainer) but my own view is Covid.

He's manufactured a careful dissemination of information via the press as to the risks, used selective "experts" to put the fear of God into all of us and then completely ignored everything he's told us to do. Not only that but given us a load of rubbish about Barnard Castle and Christmas parties.

I am in no way an anti-vaxer but it does make me question everything we have been told.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

I think that writing the two columns that were pro and anti brexit ready for whichever way he had to turn to further his career.

Then, after thinking long and hard, he decided to lead the Leave campaign as, even though he thought they would lose, he could then be the one to 're-unite' the party following the referendum. But the stupid ******* couldn't even get that right

I don't know that it's the most egregious, but it perfectly sums up the 6 years of total crashing, incompetent f***wittery from him and his followers since

I have said it right from the beginning, Boris Johnson is and always has been a remainer.
There was no oven ready deal and no money for the NHS.
It was his route into No10.
And it is why brexit is an unsuccessful mess that the kids today are going to have to live with unless the sensible and right thing is done and reverse it.
Johnson jumped out in front of the small majority of thickos and said "follow me" and they did.

 

[Pavilionaire]

His delivery of Brexit.

5 years on, the country is more divided than ever, I don't think it will ever be the same and - quite possibly - be the catalyst that breaks up the Union. He makes me embarrassed to be British.

 

[zefarelly]

#62 & #63 Nail it

How can anyone so selfish have fooled so many . . . because they're brainwashed/gullible. He's daft but he's not stupid, he's pulled off the most ridiculous thing in the history of the country. frankly he should be hung drawn and quartered, his behaviour is treasonous

But it's all jolly japes for the establishment, they're immune to the effects and get paid regardless. Its us fules who are paying for it all.

 

[Bry Nylon]

I think it would a good thing if people dialed back a bit from calling people who hold different views to their own thickos - or advocating medieval torture, particularly just weeks after an MP was stabbed 7 times and died. Otherwise this thread just gets binned.

 

[clapham_gull]

I think it would a good thing if people dialed back a bit from calling people who hold different views to their own thickos - or advocating medieval torture, particularly just weeks after an MP was stabbed 7 times and died. Otherwise this thread just gets binned.

Well said.

My message to Conservative supporters and voters on here (and I don't support or frankly even like any party) is this isn't your man.

Thatcher famously used to ask her inner circle about other Conservative MPs - but are they one of us ?

Clearly if she was still PM, Johnson wouldn't be allowed anywhere near power in the Conservative party. She knew what a complete wrong'un Archer was. Gave him a non job as party chairman so she could keep him close and keep him under control.

Johnson is a lying narcissist, with a number of serious personality faults that affect his judgement both privately and publicly. He has very little personal politics beyond being quite happy to spend other peoples money on failed vanity projects because he strives to be "loved". He went into the Brexit campaign thinking remain would win (fundamentally he supported remain) but it would gain him kudos with the party members and allow him to eventually replace Cameron.

We know what happened next, but effectively you now have someone in power who has no plan for a post Brexit UK because he never believed it and neither had a plan to deal with it.

He isn't fit for public office in any democracy and his personality and skills would be better utilised in country like North Korea. Similarities with Trump are laughable, since The Johnsons are the similar kind of self-entitled families (like the Bush, Clinton and even Kennedy families) that the election of Trump was a reaction against.

I have many Conservative voting friends and family and understand (and respect) their view of the world. I share many parts of it.

However, I respectfully ask that you don't treat mine or others criticism of Johnson as an ideologic attack on the Conservative party..

It can't be, because he isn't one of you and is dragging your party (and this country) into his gutter.

For the sake of democracy, common sense and decency you need to get your party back and that means dumping this charlatan as your leader.

 

[vegster]

I think one of the really marvellous Johnson disclosures is the Jennifer Arcuri late night Sunday " Technology Lessons" that he had... of course that cost the London taxpayers a few bob.

 

[clapham_gull]

I think one of the really marvellous Johnson disclosures is the Jennifer Arcuri late night Sunday " Technology Lessons" that he had... of course that cost the London taxpayers a few bob.

I didn't even include that in the 1 billion of London tax payers cash he pissed down the Thames.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

#62 & #63 Nail it

How can anyone so selfish have fooled so many . . . because they're brainwashed/gullible. He's daft but he's not stupid, he's pulled off the most ridiculous thing in the history of the country. frankly he should be hung drawn and quartered, his behaviour is treasonous

But it's all jolly japes for the establishment, they're immune to the effects and get paid regardless. Its us fules who are paying for it all.

Absolutely this, and the single thing that really got me was the complete disregard of the Irish Border question. A family member when it was coming to the crunch was one of a small group of specialists working for HMRC on Imports and Exports was given a weekend to “solve” the Irish border question.

They seemed not to have realised it mattered before……… surprise surprise!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

If you watch his presser the morning after the referendum, he looks totally shell shocked. As nearly all politicians, he never expected to win the vote, and you can see the reality has hit him like a ton of bricks.

The thing is, when you are already rich like he was and like Cameron before him was, politics is just a laugh, an ego trip and a personal challenge. Successful politicians have a skill that allows them to invert any situation to their own advantage. Boris did that wth Brexit.

There is a small number of the same people posting their digust on this and other threads (with the recent arrival of some measured lifelong conservatives who have had enough). This is an echo chamber.

Unfortunately the massed ranks are not interested. Those who wanted Brexit done are relaxed. Those untouched by Covid are unmoved by it.

The nation will turn on Boris only when people feel more poor, and feel abandoned by a government more interested, for example, in pussy footing with illegal immigrants. That isn't very likely so it may take a bit more of a concerted effort to poison his well of support.

 

[Live by the sea]

By far the worst is the way the exodus was managed out of Afghanistan or rather not managed . Thousands of people left there to rot , thousands of e mails not responded to when the people where desperate to leave and were entitled to expect the British govt to help . Only a small percentage were actually evacuated.

The British foreign office is known to be completely indifferent to its citizens abroad when it comes to helping them especially in life and death situations. If your American , French , German or Israeli, their countries bend over backwards to help their citizens abroad in trouble , ours are not quite useless but close to it .

Embarrassing and that is the worst thing that has happened with this govt .

 

[A1X]

Lying to the Queen to achieve his own political ends and placing her in a position which compromised her neutrality

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

. This is an echo chamber.

Unfortunately the massed ranks are not interested. Those who wanted Brexit done are relaxed. Those untouched by Covid are unmoved by it.

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Are you thinking Ant and Dec are taking notice of the mood of NSC ?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Are you thinking Ant and Dec are taking notice of the mood of NSC ?

I just heard that

And Gove's bold leadership bid. Sorry, I mean his grave warnings that something is bad but he won't say why.

Bloody hell. This is all bad. Really bad. I mean the leadership.

Hope you and yours are safe and well.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Dominic Grieve, moments ago: 'He has no leadership skills at all because everything revolves around himself'.

 

[Mr Putdown]

Lying to the Queen to prorogue Parliament should have meant his resignation.

Any normal person would have gone at that point.

This.

The fact he survived show just how wrong the whole system has become.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

By far the worst is the way the exodus was managed out of Afghanistan or rather not managed . Thousands of people left there to rot , thousands of e mails not responded to when the people where desperate to leave and were entitled to expect the British govt to help . Only a small percentage were actually evacuated.

The British foreign office is known to be completely indifferent to its citizens abroad when it comes to helping them especially in life and death situations. If your American , French , German or Israeli, their countries bend over backwards to help their citizens abroad in trouble , ours are not quite useless but close to it .

Embarrassing and that is the worst thing that has happened with this govt .

That poor woman locked up in Iran is another case in point. If Boris hadn't opened his flappy mouth and made her a token of propaganda she'd long be back home and watching recordings of bake off. A life damaged because Boris wanted to grand stand for the Daily Mail readers. What a guy

 

[Worried Man Blues]

Baby bear sofa !? I'm out.

 

[Stat Brother]

Lies, damned lies: the full list of accusations against Boris Johnson

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-johnson-full-list-dishonesty-christmas-party

Here we look at some of the most egregious examples of the prime minister’s alleged dishonesty.



Ok so which one of you scumbags took my fred and got it published in The Guardian?

 

[Cheshire Cat]

The thing is, when you are already rich like he was and like Cameron before him was, politics is just a laugh, an ego trip and a personal challenge. Successful politicians have a skill that allows them to invert any situation to their own advantage. Boris did that wth Brexit.

There is a small number of the same people posting their digust on this and other threads (with the recent arrival of some measured lifelong conservatives who have had enough). This is an echo chamber.

Unfortunately the massed ranks are not interested. Those who wanted Brexit done are relaxed. Those untouched by Covid are unmoved by it.

The nation will turn on Boris only when people feel more poor, and feel abandoned by a government more interested, for example, in pussy footing with illegal immigrants. That isn't very likely so it may take a bit more of a concerted effort to poison his well of support.

I don't think Johnson is as well off as people might think. He has a couple of £million by all accounts, but that is small change compared to Sunak and many of his other cronies.

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/boris-johnson-net-worth/

There is a thought that he wants to be Prime Monster for the sake of the money he could earn on the prawn cocktail lecture circuit after he (eventually) goes. However to earn that he actually has to have done something and spent time in the office, so he can't afford to go quickly, and certainly not quietly.