[Albion] Where is Moises going? (Chelsea - 14/08/2023)

[Krafty]

Is @dwayne still rambling on about the desirability of London?

I don't think Caicedo is that bothered about the location, moreover he's his agents are just interested in the pay-out they'll be receiving if the player joins Chelsea.

 

[clapham_gull]

One nice thing about London is it's quite easy to avoid contact with the other twats who live up here.

 

[HillBarnTillIDie]

But his Agent did encourage Liverpool to make a bid.

From Dave Maddock (respected journalist in the North)

"But late into the night they received encouragement to make a formal offer from the player’s representatives"

No because that isn't how FFP works. A £105 million pound transfer fee is amortised at £21 million per year over 5 years in the accounts (it would be a higher amount and over a shorter number of years if the contract is less than 5 years). It isn't all added to the accounts in one go.

If a player signs for 100 million on a 5 year deal, then gets injured in year 2 and can’t play again, does that mean that year 1 accounts is £20 million and year 2 - £80 million?

 

[Springal]

If a player signs for 100 million on a 5 year deal, then gets injured in year 2 and can’t play again, does that mean that year 1 accounts is £20 million and year 2 - £80 million?

No - if he’s still an asset on the books you keep writing it down

 

[Guinness Boy]

Is @dwayne still rambling on about the desirability of London?

I don't think Caicedo is that bothered about the location, moreover he's his agents are just interested in the pay-out they'll be receiving if the player joins Chelsea.

Well yeah, of course. I’d live in f**king Middlesboro if someone paid me £300,000 a week. Just so long as unbribeable security cost me no more than £2000 a week.

I’d not be naive enough to give the lions’ share to an agent though, but then again I’ve had the lucky luxury to have been born in Western Europe.

 

[GT49er]

I didn't dispute the claim that the brightest minds are there........

Of course there are. They commute in from nicer places two/three/four times a week, as necessary, to do their business, then go home again when they've done.

 

[dwayne]

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Well yeah, of course. I’d live in f**king Middlesboro if someone paid me £300,000 a week. Just so long as unbribeable security cost me no more than £2000 a week.

I’d not be naive enough to give the lions’ share to an agent though, but then again I’ve had the lucky luxury to have been born in Western Europe.

If you read back posts on this thread Ive been saying exactly the same thing

Chelsea bigger wage / pay out for agent and client.

Longer contract

But location will definitely be more attractive to Moises.

And now it appears Chelsea are at a similar level on the pitch.

 

[Machiavelli]

That’s not correct. Would only make an £80m profit if the player was from the academy or acquired via a Bosman. Profit is calculated as sales price less book value, which itself is original purchase price less accumulated amortisation.

Oooo, look at you.

 

[herecomesaregular]

I wouldn't say you are typical.




I said yes to restaurants.


I didn't dispute the claim that the brightest minds are there, I asked what difference it made, and if they stop you in the street for a chat. Whilst some of the brightest minds in the world might be in London, you're clearly not one of them.

No offense but I normally find your pendaticism and the fact you go on rather.....a bit much. But today, amigo, you are on fire and bloody hilarious! Please keep it up until Moises fecks off or it's 2024, which is sooner.

 

[Triggaaar]

No offense but I normally find your pendaticism and the fact you go on rather.....a bit much.

'A bit much' - I'll take that. My wife finds me a bit much and she (obviously) married me.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I go to restaurants that you wouldn't find in any provincial town at least once a fortnight.

This is one of the worst takes I’ve ever seen on the internet.

It’s everything Herr T gets stick for, except you’re serious and he’s ironic. There are two and three star places outside London if that’s your bag, but there are just as many interesting up and coming places all over the country. Covid has dispersed punters and cooks all over the country but Simon Rogan, to take one example, was cooking better than any British chef in London before the pandemic.

I recently went to Dishoom in Kensington and Indian Summer in East St in the same week. The latter was way, way, way better and I could walk straight in instead of queuing with a bunch of wankers who enjoy Instagram more than eating.

 

[Triggaaar]

So you pretty much agree with everything I'm saying. I'm not sure what your angle is in this conversation anyway ! You jumped on someone else's comment, and my reply to that....

Most people do it for business reasons. Not lifestyle . (Live in London)

Is this something you believe yourself? Is this something you strongly believe?

Why are you so triggered with me stating that London has better restaurants , culture and more equadorians than the rest of the country, that would clearly make it more attractive to a young guy like Moises.

This was my reply to you:
"Whilst I agree that London has a lot to offer, how often are the residents off to the museums and galleries, and what difference does it make if some of the brightest minds are there? Do they stop you in the street for a chat?

Restaurants, West End etc, yes."

Does that really sound triggered?

I've lived in London. I liked it. Chill

 

[KZNSeagull]

Of course there are. They commute in from nicer places two/three/four times a week, as necessary, to do their business, then go home again when they've done.

Indeed. As Moises can do in Liverpool and @Guinness Boy can do in Middlesbrough.

 

[Bob!]

Naylor speaks

 

[The Pilsbury Echo]

There's a reasonably large equadorian community in London. There isnt anywhere else in the country. If you have followed Moises on social media he often visits London with his mum. Funnily enough I've never seen him take a day/weekend trip to Liverpool or Cheshire !!

He was definitely in Liverpool on Saturday Oct 1st 2022. And there's tv evidence!!!

 

[Springal]

https://x.com/alex_crook/status/1690828225155387392?s=46&t=BLHOxiqws0cu0zAv93k92Q

Chelsea paying £4M extra + sell on because of ‘worse’ payment structure than agreed with Liverpool

 

[Krafty]

But location will definitely be more attractive to Moises.

Is it? You really aren't considering what Liverpool has to offer:

• Anfield holds over 10,000 more spectators than Stamford Bridge, and Liverpool has experienced greater success than Chelsea.
• Goodison Park is across the river, and the Merseyside derby is a thrilling, historical rivalry - arguably, one of the best in the Premier League!
• The Grand National horse race takes place there at Aintree - probably the biggest of its kind in the UK.
• If you are interested in museums/galleries? Well, Liverpool gladly takes second (behind London) for that.
• It's maritime sights received UNESCO status including the Pier Head and Albert Dock.
• The city's vast collection of parks and open spaces has been described as the "most important in the country".
• The Beatles, regarded as the most influential band of all time, were formed in Liverpool and has built a great music scene in the city.
• It is also home to the oldest black community in the UK.

These are just a few things in Liverpool, excluding the recent Eurovision and tight-knit community within the city, so @dwayne will Chelsea (London) definitely be more attractive?

 

[dwayne]

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This is one of the worst takes I’ve ever seen on the internet.

It’s everything Herr T gets stick for, except you’re serious and he’s ironic. There are two and three star places outside London if that’s your bag, but there are just as many interesting up and coming places all over the country. Covid has dispersed punters and cooks all over the country but Simon Rogan, to take one example, was cooking better than any British chef in London before the pandemic.

I recently went to Dishoom in Kensington and Indian Summer in East St in the same week. The latter was way, way, way better and I could walk straight in instead of queuing with a bunch of wankers who enjoy Instagram more than eating.

Dishoom not exactly a London thing there's one in Manchester ffs!

I'm unashamedly into vacuous , flash restaurants, I know it's cringe but its my thing....Casa Cruz , Gold , Zuma, Chiltern firehouse....scene type places... you don't get these in England outside of London.

Footballers lovvvvve these type of restaurants and spend their lives at novikov , nobu , cipriani. Just go on social media and see for yourself. Outposts of these in Dubai, LA etc.

I also love fine dining and yes you get starred places elsewhere but you don't get the concentration that you do in London.

I'm not saying these places are any better or worse than cote in Liverpool high street. They are just different.

 

[The Rivet]

Dwayne we know you reside in London (and appear to have a 'spot' for Chelsea) however you must understand that a lot of our supporters don't feel that way and think London a dirty dangerous city that may generate money but exudes pretentiousness and eliteism. A lot of people can't stand the place. Moises yes, may love it!

 

[dwayne]

Is it? You really aren't considering what Liverpool has to offer:

• Anfield holds over 10,000 more spectators than Stamford Bridge, and Liverpool has experienced greater success than Chelsea.
• Goodison Park is across the river, and the Merseyside derby is a thrilling, historical rivalry - arguably, one of the best in the Premier League!
• The Grand National horse race takes place there at Aintree - probably the biggest of its kind in the UK.
• If you are interested in museums/galleries? Well, Liverpool gladly takes second (behind London) for that.
• It's maritime sights received UNESCO status including the Pier Head and Albert Dock.
• The city's vast collection of parks and open spaces has been described as the "most important in the country".
• The Beatles, regarded as the most influential band of all time, were formed in Liverpool and has built a great music scene in the city.
• It is also home to the oldest black community in the UK.

These are just a few things in Liverpool, excluding the recent Eurovision and tight-knit community within the city, so @dwayne will Chelsea (London) definitely be more attractive?

Eurovision definitely swinging things Liverpool's way. Moises probably is a closet Albert Dock lover as well.... And massiv Beatles fan.