[Albion] Where is Moises going? (Chelsea - 14/08/2023)
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willalbion
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That’s hilarious - they must all be pushing for a move to Chelsea
willalbion
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I wonder about that, isn’t their ‘model’ based on much lower wages than previously given? I’m sure I read that somewhere, I’m also pretty sure they’ll pay more than us, might not be as extreme as double though,
Problem here is all the media appear to be taking the narrative that we are the bad guys in this, we're not, it's Chelsea holding the whole thing up. Pay the money you get the player.
With no real knowledge my guess is we are paying Caicedo less than £100k a week and Chelsea will pay him up to £200k a week. I think the wages they wanted to avoid are the £300k+ wages.
Silverhatch
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Unless the club who hold the newly signed 5-year contract do not want the player to leave. This has also happened throughout the history of football; most recently with er, an Ecuadorean player - what’s his name? Arsenal tried to get him. f*** me. Plays for that shitty league one club on the South Coast
Yes, I would, but I'm probably a freak because I've never been driven by money or getting rich, but by doing a job I enjoy (although constant political interference and over-management are making it less enjoyable with every passing year) with good colleagues, and a happy life outside of work. In fact, I've been head-hunted twice, but turned them down because I did not want to uproot to a different part of the country where I did not know anyone, and in the new company, would be viewed as 'the new boy'.
Also, if the company you currently work for is better run, but pays less, I would take a broader view; your job is more likely to be more secure than working for a badly-run company which is more likely to find itself in financial difficulties and thus face insolvency or make staff redundant to balance the books.
Personally, I prefer stability and (relative) security, and being financially comfortable (than getting rich), and if that makes me boring or unadventurous, fair enough. I'm happy with my lot, and count my blessings.
I actually find a lot of rich footballers quite sad - they've got their £ millions, and 10 x flashy cars parked in the drive way, expensive mock-tudor house with security gates in Alderley Edge or Cobham, gold-digging women and vacuous surgically-enhanced glamour models drooling and draped over them in a nightclub (only after their money, or to sell a salacious story to the News of the World), and constantly being badgered for autographs and selfies by total strangers when they go to Nandos, or even to buy a pint of milk. I'm sure most of them are absolutely thrilled, and think all their Christmases have come at once, but it's all at the cost of no longer living a normal life with real people in the real world; it's all so false and superficial, and you live in a gilded cage surrounded by people who probably only like you for your money, and what they can screw out of you.
Good luck to them, but that lifestyle would not be one I'd enjoy.
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The words that do the heavy lifting in this post are the first four. Can moderators impose a rule that all posting on this thread use them?
It's infuriating. I've been told we need to add in an extra level in between 'Consultant' and 'Senior Consultant' in my recruitment company, because someone coming in young and fresh getting promoted 3 times in 2 years isn't enough apparently. They need 'more to aim at' or they'll get de-motivated. It's f***ing insane. I honestly don't know how these people are going to survive in the real world.
el punal
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I’m wondering if this whole Caicedo saga will turn into Arsenal Part 2 drama, as in “he’s not for sale” rinse and repeat. Moises doth protest. Moises told to wobble his head, stay away, come back with brain in gear at the end of the transfer window. Moises then will be sat down and given a good talking to about his responsibilities and his value to the club. Moises will be advised to bin off his agent (maybe). Moises will come on as a sub on 2nd of September against Newcastle and play a blinder. All is well until January 2024 - then a case of here we go again.
Yes, but Caicedo doesn't, does he? He had just learnt to walk when Chelsea started winning the Premier League.
willalbion
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Also, see Harry Kane.Unless the club who hold the newly signed 5-year contract do not want the player to leave. This has also happened throughout the history of football; most recently with er, an Ecuadorean player - what’s his name? Arsenal tried to get him. f*** me. Plays for that shitty league one club on the South Coast
The Wizard
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Nobody can post anything then because unless you’re Tony Bloom or one of the clubs top hierarchy nobody knows anything for certain.
At the moment most of us are working off journalist rumours and the fact he wasn’t in our squad on Sunday, doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out he’s probably getting more and more desperate for the move, he’s probably been hoping Chelsea would just stump up the money and as it looks less likely he/his agents have got more and more desperate.
It’s all very similar to the January fiasco isn’t it, I can’t blame Moises for wanting the best for himself but the lad is 21 years old, if he stays here another season and performs to the level he did last year, he will be in demand even more so, potentially by bigger more stable teams.
There’s no point pretending Chelsea isn’t a better career move than us because it’s obviously is but I do think that move is fraught with danger for any player, as Cucurella showed, he was one of the best players I’ve seen in the stripes and then goes to Chelsea has a few bad games and the toxic fan base never allowed him to recover. Chelsea are rebuilding and whilst they pay more and are a significantly bigger club than us, that doesn’t always mean it’s the best career option.
aolstudios
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Weird post. He just strikes me as shy & awkward
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The only way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them, we all know that. Boehly is a bully and Tony and Paul are acting in the only sensible way. If you give in to bullies they never let you go.
el punal
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I was of course referring to an employment situation outside of football. The only loyal people in football are the fans. You are right though - it’s all about money, and please spare me “this is the club I’ve always wanted to play for since I was a boy” crap. The odour of greed eh?
I'd settle for this right now!
nwgull
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Is it the title that they want, which is easy to implement, or is it all about the money? For my three, it's the cash, with a sprinkling of believing that they know better than senior management after a whole 12 months of real-world experience.
I've already suggested to one of them that she send her CV out to competitors if she wants to earn more, which appears to have worked based on the fact that her productivity has had a step change over the last 8 weeks as if she's realised that she needs to justify her salary requests - check out my management skillz. The other two are seriously in danger of being let go before they've done 2 years, with us cutting our losses on their recruitment and training.
Apologies for going off-topic, but it really is nice to vent on a broadly anonymous forum.
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NorthstandRacoon
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Right…..what a weird response. Was only jossing, but if you wanna go down that road then fine…You do realise that I am a BHA fan, season ticket since 2008, not some JCL or Chelsea plastic, I’m only 30yo, so do the maths and I started going when most young lads do, no matter what the years. No need to start telling me you are some better fan. Thought you were better than that.
Anyway, f*** off Caicedo, don’t want players like you at my club. Not what we are about.