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What is the point of Molango?







Lammy

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brighton rock said:
looks like Molango was a gamble that never payed off?

BINGO!

(but don't tell anyone as it may sound as though you're critisising McGhee)
 


Man of Harveys

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brighton rock said:
looks like Molango was a gamble that never payed off?

Maybe but it's more that McGhee's not even willing to put a few quid on him at the bookies and give him a decent chance.

If Molango's in no position to have a go when we're losing 3-0 at home, how long is he going to want to stick around? He looked good enough at Reading but we've hardly seen anything of him since. He cannot do worse than the meagre offerings that the front line offered up in the 2H on Saturday.
 


perseus

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Lord Bracknell said:
He's young, he's talented, he's promising, and I heard he's not expensive.

As McGhee said, when he signed him, 'One for the future'.

I find this very heartening - McGhee is looking to the long-term, not just at instant success. Which says something about McGhee's commitment to the Club.

A nineteen seconds wonder. At that rate he is expensive. :jester:
 






Lammy

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Our defence has managed to conceed 1 goal or less on 10 out of 19 games.

Our strikers have managed a goal ratio of 0.84 goals a game.

I don't thinks our defence is where we need to look for changes. In fact when they do leak goals it is because McGhee is trying to aid the attack in some way.
 


SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

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I must admit I feel that MM has made twe bad decisions in the last week. Trying to win at Sunderland and then changing formation and leaving out Molango and Robinson (not even on the bench!!) against Crewe...a must-win game.

We all agree MM got it wright playing Adam up front but we've said it before and we've heard it from Mark... better to keep to your formation. 4-3-3 was suicide with only little Leon up front.

Maybe we shouldn't have started with Molango or Robinson but we should have had at least one of them on the ebnch!!!

Even if they are for the future soemtimes you have to throw them in...... Man U got where they are today because they did that.

Mark needs to have more faith with his strikers... and then they might have more faith in him.
 


Superseagull

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Reading Mark Mcghees comments on the official site it sounds like we won't be seeing Molango this season in the first team. He just does not seem to think he is capable of playing first team football.

Ok fair enough to take him on as one for the long term future of the club, but is the club really in the financial position to do this? I can't see Mcghees comments doing his confidence any good and just playing reserve team football when the first team is having a striker/goals crisis must to difficult to accept. What if Knight gets injured? Will he expect Molango to suddenly become a first team player full of confidence?

The only way to get Molango experience is to loan him out and see how he develops. What have we got to gain by keeping him in the reserve team for the rest of the season?
 




Pavilionaire

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I agree with the general sentiment that there is no point in having Molango at the club.

If the club has no money, and players are under contract, then our only option is to loan players out to bring other players in. When is McGhee going to sort this?

Last year the continuity of Henderson / Benjamin / Yeates and Iwelumo helped us to get promoted. We need the same sort of arrangement now.
 




perseus

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Say Beckham gets £10,000 a minute of playing football, which is expensive, we are paying Molango for 19 seconds on say a three year contract, is he getting less than Beckham would get for 19 seconds, i.e. £3,000.

There is no getting away from it Molango is not getting paid for his performances?

I expect he will get injured. :jester:
 




b.w.2.

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Big mistakes by MM... he should have started with Molango or Robinson, and stuck with 4-4-2... even Piercy alongside Leon, and sticking with 4-4-2 would have been better than the switch to 4-3-3... and Harding prefers and is better at playing lb... playing Mayo against anyone with any sort of pace is suicide in this division...
 


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It suprises me that no one has considered the possibility that Molango and MM have had a bust up, since wigan where the the service was poor, we have hardly seen this player for the future.

As for Knight, is it possible the player has turned bad, or just a coincedence that once MM took charge last season and changed the style of play the goals dryed up. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying play to knights strength, but if you don't, then should he be in the squad?

As pointed out in a report from saturdays game, points make prizes and goals make points! Which leads me to my next point, surely an unexperienced striker is better than an unfit make shift Piercy. An if Piercy is fitter than Malango, then surely he can't be one for the future!
 


Lammy

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Black Country Seagull said:
It suprises me that no one has considered the possibility that Molango and MM have had a bust up, since wigan where the the service was poor, we have hardly seen this player for the future.

As for Knight, is it possible the player has turned bad, or just a coincedence that once MM took charge last season and changed the style of play the goals dryed up. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying play to knights strength, but if you don't, then should he be in the squad?

As pointed out in a report from saturdays game, points make prizes and goals make points! Which leads me to my next point, surely an unexperienced striker is better than an unfit make shift Piercy. An if Piercy is fitter than Malango, then surely he can't be one for the future!

Totally agree with that. There is no reason why Molango should not be fit. To play an unfit player ahead of a fully fit player is madness. He should have at LEAST been on the bench. To me McGhee has made a mistake. He either made a mistake by not at least giving him a chance against Crewe or he made a mistake in signing him in the first place. He has said on the official web site that he stands by his decision not to include him on saturday which leads me to conclude that he made a mistake in signing him.

We simply cannot afford to bring players in that won't make an impact on the current squad. McGhee said as much at the start of the season when we were asking were the new signing were. "I'm not going to bring in players that will not add something to our current squad" were his words. Well what the feck is Molango?

It is my opinion that he got Molango in as a target man for knight. He has the look of one at least. But it soon became apparent that he was anything but a target man. I believe McGhee made a mistake there and we are suffering now because of it.
 




fatboy

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Superseagull said:
Reading Mark Mcghees comments on the official site it sounds like we won't be seeing Molango this season in the first team. He just does not seem to think he is capable of playing first team football.

Ok fair enough to take him on as one for the long term future of the club, but is the club really in the financial position to do this?

Molango is a player for the future, hence signing him on a three year deal.

Judge him at the end of that.

Does a young player have to be year since the age of 11 for him to be considered an investment for the future?
 


Lammy

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fatboy said:
Molango is a player for the future, hence signing him on a three year deal.

Judge him at the end of that.

Does a young player have to be year since the age of 11 for him to be considered an investment for the future?

When we have no money and the future of the club depends on a stadium rather than any player then YES!
 


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Lammy said:
Totally agree with that. There is no reason why Molango should not be fit. To play an unfit player ahead of a fully fit player is madness. He should have at LEAST been on the bench. To me McGhee has made a mistake. He either made a mistake by not at least giving him a chance against Crewe or he made a mistake in signing him in the first place. He has said on the official web site that he stands by his decision not to include him on saturday which leads me to conclude that he made a mistake in signing him.



I think our weak pre-season arrangements don't really help who ever is in charge, surely playing all the usual non league teams can not help when trying to judge a player.

Yes Molanga scored freely against them, but no disrespect to there back fours, but there is a massive golf of over three league tiers. My big concern, is that even when virgo is fit, we still don't look like scoring. Without Currie distribution we would be in extreme problems and even Curries superb vision is let down by no one from midfield bursting through oppositions defensive ranks. When was the last time you can remember a midfielder running on to a through ball like sidwell did so well?
 


Lammy

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Black Country Seagull said:
I think our weak pre-season arrangements don't really help who ever is in charge, surely playing all the usual non league teams can not help when trying to judge a player.

Yes Molanga scored freely against them, but no disrespect to there back fours, but there is a massive golf of over three league tiers. My big concern, is that even when virgo is fit, we still don't look like scoring. Without Currie distribution we would be in extreme problems and even Curries superb vision is let down by no one from midfield bursting through oppositions defensive ranks. When was the last time you can remember a midfielder running on to a through ball like sidwell did so well?

Totally agree.
 




fatboy

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Lammy said:
When we have no money and the future of the club depends on a stadium rather than any player then YES!


Shall we sack the youth team and put the money in the Falmer pot?
 


Oct 20, 2004
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fatboy said:
Molango is a player for the future, hence signing him on a three year deal.

Judge him at the end of that.

Does a young player have to be year since the age of 11 for him to be considered an investment for the future?


I agree for players for the future, look at the gooners youth team who beat city in the cup. However, how can a young prospect be a prospect, when he is so unfit, and he must be unfit if Piercy is healthier than him. Surely we should loan him out to gain experience and fitness if MM dosn't see him as part of the squad for this season
 


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