Well done our Caroline

[The Large One]

Do not trust ANY politician they are ALL in it for themselves. Lucas is no exception. Got on a bandwagon which served her self promotion well. Good for her.

Gibberish.

 

[Buzzer]

3 What used to occupy the Big Yellow Storage warehouse on the corner of Coombe and Lewes Road

A dead body?

 

[The Large One]

Really, is that the quiz he sent? And to all candidates?

He did take pride in telling us the Tory candidate (Charlotte Vere) got most right.

I would have hoped that none of the candidates would have wasted one moment on such a puerile gesture, and handed it to their helpers instead.

 

[Silent Bob]

I wonder who got the most on the local quiz for local people?

Was it the tory from out of town that he campaigned for (maybe that's why he did?)?

I see she did.

Nothing suspicious about that though...

 

[paddy]

I'm sure I read on the Guardian that the boundary changes mean Lucas would not win at the next election - she looses half her green voters to a new constituency and gains Tory voters...

 

[paddy]

I'm sure I read on the Guardian that the boundary changes mean Lucas would not win at the next election - she looses half her green voters to a new constituency and gains Tory voters...

Boundary changes: Labour and Lib Dems set for big losses, first analysis shows | Politics | guardian.co.uk

"The Labour party could have netted 14 fewer seats, the Liberal Democrats 10 fewer, while the Conservatives, who dominate England, might have lost just six seats. The UK's only Green MP, Caroline Lucas, would not have been able to win her seat, according to the preliminary figures."

 

[The Large One]

I'm sure I read on the Guardian that the boundary changes mean Lucas would not win at the next election - she looses half her green voters to a new constituency and gains Tory voters...

I can't see how they come to that conclusion.

If she stood in the northern of the two new Brighton & Hove constituencies, that's a possibility; if she stood in the southern of the two (central Brighton, central Hove), she would waltz it.

 

[The Large One]

Boundary changes: Labour and Lib Dems set for big losses, first analysis shows | Politics | guardian.co.uk

"The Labour party could have netted 14 fewer seats, the Liberal Democrats 10 fewer, while the Conservatives, who dominate England, might have lost just six seats. The UK's only Green MP, Caroline Lucas, would not have been able to win her seat, according to the preliminary figures."

In 21 council wards places within the new constituency, 20 are currently Green, one is Tory. (Brighton - 14 Green; Hove - 6 Green, 1 Tory)

 

[glasfryn]

It was. And as I pointed out at the time, Tim got at least one of the answers wrong as the Big Yellow warehouse didn't used to be Dentsply (that was the building opposite) but SE Tyres. I used to work there.

You do have to ask what sort of person sets a quiz, makes it public but doesn't check whether his answers are right.

spot on mate Dentsply in now I believe a block of flats and I might be corrected here but both owned by the same person.
the Ice rink one might have caught out a few
and I might say most of the questions I got right other than those that were recent

 

[keaton]

I say we send the quiz to Gus and if he doesn't get 50% right we sack him

 

[looney]

Interesting statement with one tiny flaw. From the first word to the last, it's total bollocks.

Slavishly following Timmy's political jottings doesn't make for an intelligent argument.

Ah no attempt to explain why you think its bollocks though, ditto gimpster, when I say think here the word emote would be more apt. But I suppose you 2 pair of clowns are used to getting pwned by me by now, like the good old days.

At least that funny looking monkey has had a stab at it, if the bill is passed when does he think May the 7th will fall? Half term? Probalbly will be by then.

 

[The Large One]

Ah no attempt to explain why you think its bollocks though, ditto gimpster, when I say think here the word emote would be more apt. But I suppose you 2 pair of clowns are used to getting pwned by me by now, like the good old days.

At least that funny looking monkey has had a stab at it, if the bill is passed when does he think May the 7th will fall? Half term? Probalbly will be by then.

As you evidently have no interest or knowledge of local politics in Brighton & Hove, I'm just curious why you wrote that stuff as it if had any validity and meaning. The only reason I could think of was wishful thinking, rather than any insight. If you did have insight, you would not have written such nonsense.

So, for your benefit, here's why you're wrong.

You claim she will finish third behind Labour and the Conservatives, with no evidence yourself to back that up yourself. That bold statement in itself rings alarm bells for the validity of your post. If you look at the new map (assuming this comes in), you will see the constituency and the wards contained therein. As has been evident for the past eight to ten years (and more), the Green Party has slowly but surely increased its vote and popularity to form a healthy platform of support in the city of Brighton & Hove, mostly around the areas of central Brighton, Hanover, Queens Park and St Peters. Over time, that support has spread. In many wards, the Greens have over 45% of the vote; in one ward, they have 62%.

At the last three elections in Brighton Pavilion (Euro Parliament, General Election, Council Election), the Greens won the popular vote - by progessively increasing margins.

The Green Party vote in Brighton & Hove is not a protest vote. This has now been proven. If it was a protest vote, there would not be increasing votes election upon election, nor would there be enough to have both an MP and a Green-led council. As I said earlier, 20 of the 21 ward seats within that constituency are Green. Some became Green at the last council election. Things change, of course, but there is little or no evidence at present of that swing reversing just yet.

There is also no evidence to presume that the Green vote is purely transitory, nor largely coming from the student population. Nor can you claim that the majority of the student vote is in fact for the Green Party. It's just prejudicial guesswork on your part (in assuming all students are tree-hugging hippies). So your 'vote-rigging' comment holds no water.

You mention the LibDems. What LibDems there are - should they wish to tactically vote for someone other than their own party - could go to any party, including the Greens. And many have.

What you have failed to grasp that there is more to politics in Brighton & Hove than the three main parties. Like it or lump it, the Greens are the largest party in Brighton (in voting terms) at present. Pretty much everyone knows that. Except you it seems.

And Agent Timmy.

 

[Deleted User X18H]

As you evidently have no interest or knowledge of local politics in Brighton & Hove, I'm just curious why you wrote that stuff as it if had any validity and meaning. The only reason I could think of was wishful thinking, rather than any insight. If you did have insight, you would not have written such nonsense.

So, for your benefit, here's why you're wrong.

You claim she will finish third behind Labour and the Conservatives, with no evidence yourself to back that up yourself. That bold statement in itself rings alarm bells for the validity of your post. If you look at the new map (assuming this comes in), you will see the constituency and the wards contained therein. As has been evident for the past eight to ten years (and more), the Green Party has slowly but surely increased its vote and popularity to form a healthy platform of support in the city of Brighton & Hove, mostly around the areas of central Brighton, Hanover, Queens Park and St Peters. Over time, that support has spread. In many wards, the Greens have over 45% of the vote; in one ward, they have 62%.

At the last three elections in Brighton Pavilion (Euro Parliament, General Election, Council Election), the Greens won the popular vote - by progessively increasing margins.

The Green Party vote in Brighton & Hove is not a protest vote. This has now been proven. If it was a protest vote, there would not be increasing votes election upon election, nor would there be enough to have both an MP and a Green-led council. As I said earlier, 20 of the 21 ward seats within that constituency are Green. Some became Green at the last council election. Things change, of course, but there is little or no evidence at present of that swing reversing just yet.

There is also no evidence to presume that the Green vote is purely transitory, nor largely coming from the student population. Nor can you claim that the majority of the student vote is in fact for the Green Party. It's just prejudicial guesswork on your part (in assuming all students are tree-hugging hippies). So your 'vote-rigging' comment holds no water.

You mention the LibDems. What LibDems there are - should they wish to tactically vote for someone other than their own party - could go to any party, including the Greens. And many have.

What you have failed to grasp that there is more to politics in Brighton & Hove than the three main parties. Like it or lump it, the Greens are the largest party in Brighton (in voting terms) at present. Pretty much everyone knows that. Except you it seems.

And Agent Timmy.

For crying out loud Lukewarm have you really got nothing else to worry about? Most of us had just had a bit a banter about the Greens and got on with out busy lives. Not written a bloody essay about the recent history of Comerade Lucas.Get a hobby! And watch the hypertension. Oh and I notice you didn't venture on to this thread until about 11.30 this morning plenty of time to take instruction from your 'friend'

 

[Deleted User X18H]

HB&B. Can you reproduce the quiz on here?

Yes

let me do it for him: Look I'm promoting your blog HBB !!!!!!!!!!!!

Pavilion Dollar Questions From The Argus)

1 Name the road that connects Surrey Street to Queens Road?

2 How old is Volks Railway?

3 What used to occupy the Big Yellow Storage warehouse on the corner of Coombe and Lewes Roads?

4 What percentage of the time is the maternity unit at RSCH closed, due to high number of admissions, lack of resources and available staff?

5 What is Brighton’s tallest building?

6 Which colourful violinist was born in Brighton?

7 What is the parking restriction criteria for Zone A?

8 What date did Albion play their last game at the Goldstone?

9 How much cash did Brighton and Hove Council recently give to shore up the deficit in Pride’s finances?

10 How much is the deficit in Brighton and Hove Councils budget to repair potholes and maintain salt provisions?

11 What happened just east of the Palace Pier on 17TH May 1980?

12 Name the 11 railway stations in the built up area of Brighton and Hove?

13 Which month of the year does Brighton racecourse have its big three day meeting?

14 Which famous poet and writer has an East Brighton Primary school named after him?

15 Which is the only bus service routed via Preston Street?

16 Where was the last venue for an Ice Rink in Brighton?

17 Which grocer used to be MP for Hove?

18 What is approximately 1320 yards long and runs from Freshfield Way to Elm Grove?

19 Who was Brighton’s Cheeky Chappy?

20 How long has David Lepper been MP for Brighton Pavilion?

and the answers and results are here (if you really care):

Bookies Vere to the Greens! From The Argus)

Oh you have.

 

[Deleted User X18H]

HB&B. Can you reproduce the quiz on here?

Really, is that the quiz he sent? And to all candidates?

Yes Lee. Brilliant wasn't it.

 

[Wilko]

A dead body?

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

i can't see how answering any of those questions would have any bearing on your ability to do the job as an mp

utterly pathetic.......you really need to get a life hb&b

REALLY

 

[Deleted User X18H]

HB&B. Can you reproduce the quiz on here?

i can't see how answering any of those questions would have any bearing on your ability to do the job as an mp

utterly pathetic.......you really need to get a life hb&b

REALLY

The Argus asked me to do it actually. Also really you should have some local knowledge of the area you are going to represent (or not) if you are thinking of becoming an MP. Ask Baxter Basics.

 

[looney]

As you evidently have no interest or knowledge of local politics in Brighton & Hove, I'm just curious why you wrote that stuff as it if had any validity and meaning. The only reason I could think of was wishful thinking, rather than any insight. If you did have insight, you would not have written such nonsense.

So, for your benefit, here's why you're wrong.

You claim she will finish third behind Labour and the Conservatives, with no evidence yourself to back that up yourself. That bold statement in itself rings alarm bells for the validity of your post. If you look at the new map (assuming this comes in), you will see the constituency and the wards contained therein. As has been evident for the past eight to ten years (and more), the Green Party has slowly but surely increased its vote and popularity to form a healthy platform of support in the city of Brighton & Hove, mostly around the areas of central Brighton, Hanover, Queens Park and St Peters. Over time, that support has spread. In many wards, the Greens have over 45% of the vote; in one ward, they have 62%.

At the last three elections in Brighton Pavilion (Euro Parliament, General Election, Council Election), the Greens won the popular vote - by progessively increasing margins.

The Green Party vote in Brighton & Hove is not a protest vote. This has now been proven. If it was a protest vote, there would not be increasing votes election upon election, nor would there be enough to have both an MP and a Green-led council. As I said earlier, 20 of the 21 ward seats within that constituency are Green. Some became Green at the last council election. Things change, of course, but there is little or no evidence at present of that swing reversing just yet.

There is also no evidence to presume that the Green vote is purely transitory, nor largely coming from the student population. Nor can you claim that the majority of the student vote is in fact for the Green Party. It's just prejudicial guesswork on your part (in assuming all students are tree-hugging hippies). So your 'vote-rigging' comment holds no water.

You mention the LibDems. What LibDems there are - should they wish to tactically vote for someone other than their own party - could go to any party, including the Greens. And many have.

What you have failed to grasp that there is more to politics in Brighton & Hove than the three main parties. Like it or lump it, the Greens are the largest party in Brighton (in voting terms) at present. Pretty much everyone knows that. Except you it seems.

And Agent Timmy.

What you fail to grasp during your verbose and pompous waffle is that I was not talking in absolutes, I dont assume all the Green vote is protest vote but I'm not sure you understand that some of it could be.

Caroline Lucas won with about an 8% swing and and increased share of the vote of about 7% of a 70% turnout. Thats not an overall majority, its not a safe seat either.

Most of that swing came from Labour, a swing back to labour half as big would oust Lucas, any Libdems defecting could go to Labour.

You are talking 600ish votes here, for the tories to overtake Lucas would require a bigger drop of 4,000.

Exactly how many students are there at the 2 universities? 50,000 combined? If 80% Live outside the constiuency and student voting patterns are skewed towards Labour and the greens it really wouldn't take much to dump the Watermelon out on her arse.

 

[bobby smith]

is her seat safe act the next election ?

no no no