[Politics] Wealth Inequality

[FatSuperman]

Elon will have the rest of us live in The Silo, whilst he parties with Trump in Mar-a-Lago.

Actually.. now I think about it that Silo living doesn’t sound so bad.

It's that or working down in Jeff Bezos' Recycling Mines. At least you get subsidised Amazon Nutritional Slurry (TM) when you work in the mines.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Agreed, it's like having a dull but competent supply teacher come in after a couple of f***ing idiots.
Incredibly some people want the Chuckle Brothers back running things.

Would you define Starmer's record so far as 'dull but competent'?
Freezing pensioners and mortgage payers might beg to differ.

 

[FatSuperman]

This is a great way to spend some time getting properly enraged:

Wealth, shown to scale

Wealth inequality in the United States is out of control. Here we visualize the issue in a unique way.

mkorostoff.github.io

 

[FatSuperman]

Would you define Starmer's record so far as 'dull but competent'?
Freezing pensioners and mortgage payers might beg to differ.

The Conservatives absolute idiocacy and rank corruption is what has CAUSED all of the crap we're in. It's utterly mental that so many people are blaming Labour or Starmer for the fact that shit choices now have to be made.

It's like someone ransacking your home, turning everything upside down and smearing excrement everywhere, and then your other half complaining because you threw away a pack of bacon that might have been OK to use. YES, perhaps there is another way than means-testing the winter fuel payment, but we've got a lot to sort out here and none of it is going to be perfect. You've got billionaire newspaper and media moguls stirring up bullshit, and the general public - who spend approximately zero minutes investigating truth - lapping it all up.

 

[Is it PotG?]

The Conservatives absolute idiocacy and rank corruption is what has CAUSED all of the crap we're in. It's utterly mental that so many people are blaming Labour or Starmer for the fact that shit choices now have to be made.

It's like someone ransacking your home, turning everything upside down and smearing excrement everywhere, and then your other half complaining because you threw away a pack of bacon that might have been OK to use. YES, perhaps there is another way than means-testing the winter fuel payment, but we've got a lot to sort out here and none of it is going to be perfect. You've got billionaire newspaper and media moguls stirring up bullshit, and the general public - who spend approximately zero minutes investigating truth - lapping it all up.

New govt blames last govt for inheriting a mess...plus ça change.

 

[Beach Hut]

The Conservatives absolute idiocacy and rank corruption is what has CAUSED all of the crap we're in. It's utterly mental that so many people are blaming Labour or Starmer for the fact that shit choices now have to be made.

It's like someone ransacking your home, turning everything upside down and smearing excrement everywhere, and then your other half complaining because you threw away a pack of bacon that might have been OK to use. YES, perhaps there is another way than means-testing the winter fuel payment, but we've got a lot to sort out here and none of it is going to be perfect. You've got billionaire newspaper and media moguls stirring up bullshit, and the general public - who spend approximately zero minutes investigating truth - lapping it all up.

So the banking crisis didn't happen when Labour were in Government?

 

[Hugo Rune]

So the banking crisis didn't happen when Labour were in Government?

Labour are absolutely to blame for not imposing sufficient regulations on the banking industry under Blair & Brown.

However, because the likes of Osbourne had been calling for banking deregulation for years, Cameron and Co. had to invent a false narrative that over spending was the issue rather than banking regulation that would have helped protect us from the fall out of the US mortgage market collapse. A smear campaign carried out by the right wing media on Ed Milliband that was more about bacon sandwiches than competency ensured that the Tories got their hands on power again.

And then the lies told to the electorate by the Tories led to the introduction of austerity which was disastrous for public services but has helped accelerate the polarisation of wealth meaning the richest have never had it so good. They run a lot of the right wing media to ensure that this position is maintained and accelerated where possible.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

By the arguments above about wealth then surely anyone earning above the global average are just greedy and exploiting the poor, which would mean that virtually everyone in the UK who is employed is guilty of this, seeing as the average global wage is about $12,235 (£9,945) which would include a lot of people in this country who are deemed to be living in poverty

 

[LamieRobertson]

I agree about Reeves. Deeply uninspiring.
She sounds very working class, and nobody wants that in a chancellor.

Interesting……i agree with the first bit….but never thought she sounded working class ..just monotone …shrug

 

[Bakero]

By the arguments above about wealth then surely anyone earning above the global average are just greedy and exploiting the poor, which would mean that virtually everyone in the UK who is employed is guilty of this, seeing as the average global wage is about $12,235 (£9,945) which would include a lot of people in this country who are deemed to be living in poverty

I expected Guy Fawkes to be a bit more anti-establishment. I guess this is often what happens as people get older

 

[dsr-burnley]

Great post and sums up my take on it too.



Agreed, it's like having a dull but competent supply teacher come in after a couple of f***ing idiots.
Incredibly some people want the Chuckle Brothers back running things.

Dull but competent? One out of two ain't bad.

 

[LamieRobertson]

It all depends how one defines success.

The reality is there is a limit to what a UK government can do and, provided it doesn't suddenly do some random bollox and tank the economy (Truss) all it can do is steer the massive ship 'UK' towards calmer waters.

Unfortunately the narrative has changed over the last 10 years, with Johnson and Trump blowing smoke up people's arses from behind a mirror, while the 'social media' tycoons, Zuckerberg and now Musk, pipe their muzak direclty into the cerebral cortex of their billions of followers.

Whether Labour do a good job or not will be a matter of opinion, and every opinion is apparently valid now.
If you expect them to fail, they will fail. There will be data you can select to prove your point.

Personally I am content to have a PM with a silly voice and apparently no ability to spin bollocks, false promises and hubris.
Others, sadly still hanker for Johnson, and find Trump exciting and different.

Changed your mind from yesterday?

‘’The wider issue - I am not sure what to make of Starmer yet. I personally liked the era of Campbell and Mandleson who knew how to spin a difficult policy. Starmer doesn't do that, and yet this legislation seems rushed.’’

 

[FatSuperman]

By the arguments above about wealth then surely anyone earning above the global average are just greedy and exploiting the poor, which would mean that virtually everyone in the UK who is employed is guilty of this, seeing as the average global wage is about $12,235 (£9,945) which would include a lot of people in this country who are deemed to be living in poverty

This is exactly the nonsense that the mega rich want us to be saying.

Come on mate, you know the problem isn't people earning £65k in Surrey. The problem is when you have 300 people who combined have the wealth of an entire continent. In 2024, Elon Musk grew his wealth by over $6,000 PER SECOND. He is worth almost half a TRILLION at the moment. That's like the entire GDP of Norway.

We're entering the age of the megacorp, and half the bros in the world think that's a good thing. Yes, our governments have been crap for a decade or two, but do we really think it's better to have a handful of people controlling most of the free wealth?

 

[FatSuperman]

New govt blames last govt for inheriting a mess...plus ça change.

Always the case of course, but recent history suggests that the country is better run when not being run by the Conservative party. The laughable 'party of fiscal responsibility'. How amusing that is, when you look at the data.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I can see why the few at the top of the divide want it to continue and increase, plus all their various hangers on who are also benefiting and those few who hang around hoping to get a few crumbs from the table :cough:Farage:cough: even at the expense of being f***ed over an made to look stupid.

But the one that I never ever understand is why so many, very much from the other end of the divide, keep campaigning for (often very vigorously and fervently) and backing the status quo

There'll be one along in a minute

 

[Wardy's twin]

New govt blames last govt for inheriting a mess...plus ça change.

I think the mess was pretty clear to see by anyone once you moved the pigs with their snouts stuck in the trough.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Always the case of course, but recent history suggests that the country is better run when not being run by the Conservative party. The laughable 'party of fiscal responsibility'. How amusing that is, when you look at the data.

For thickies like me, can you define 'better'?

 

[Is it PotG?]

I think the mess was pretty clear to see by anyone once you moved the pigs with their snouts stuck in the trough.

Freebies seems to be a universal trend?

 

[Peteinblack]

I can see why the few at the top of the divide want it to continue and increase, plus all their various hangers on who are also benefiting and those few who hang around hoping to get a few crumbs from the table :cough:Farage:cough: even at the expense of being f***ed over an made to look stupid.

But the one that I never ever understand is why so many, very much from the other end of the divide, keep campaigning for and backing the status quo

Like an ex-Labour Red Wall voter in Hartlepool, in 2021, who said she was voting Conservative for the first time "because Labour have said they want to get rid of food-banks, but I rely on one."

 

[telboyWotR]

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