Was it worth the sacrifice.

[Silk]

What it means is it supports not just a basic lifestyle but sufficient to run a car, holiday(s) premium tv services etc.
What I suggest is for charitable work, helping the less abled, older people etc, to use their day more productively and put something back into the community from where their income is coming from rather than just taking and give them a sense of purpose and a reason to get up in the morning.

Are your comments re Slave labour? Extermination, serious ones That sounds like Nazi Germany, the very thing our ancestors gave their lives to protect us from.

I was wondering what your alternative to paying money to the unemployed was, since you seem to think they can live on thin air. Sounds like your answer is make them work for the money, which is exactly what is happening, so what exactly is your problem?

 

[Garage_Doors]

I was wondering what your alternative to paying money to the unemployed was, since you seem to think they can live on thin air. Sounds like your answer is make them work for the money, which is exactly what is happening, so what exactly is your problem?

You are continually asking questions whilst ignoring the ones asked of you, why is that?

My "problem" is the benefit system is too generous meaning that by working the system the benefit system provides a better income than a proportional working wage.

 

[Ernest]

You are continually asking questions whilst ignoring the ones asked of you, why is that?

My "problem" is the benefit system is too generous meaning that by working the system the benefit system provides a better income than a proportional working wage.

Your problem is that you've read the Daily Mail for too long, you haven't a clue about benefits or the welfare system

 

[Silk]

You are continually asking questions whilst ignoring the ones asked of you, why is that?

My "problem" is the benefit system is too generous meaning that by working the system the benefit system provides a better income than a proportional working wage.

Er, you haven't asked me any questions.

And it isn't a better income than a working wage. I don't know what you mean by a "proportional" working wage.

Far more benefits are paid to retired and working people than to the unemployed.

 

[Silk]

Your problem is that you've read the Daily Mail for too long, you haven't a clue about benefits or the welfare system

This. Utterly without a clue.

 

[Garage_Doors]

Er, you haven't asked me any questions.

Take a bit more care in reading rather than just scanning the postings.

I have repeated the question again from #202

"Are your comments re Slave labour? Extermination, serious ones"That sounds like Nazi Germany, the very thing our ancestors gave their lives to protect us from.

 

[Silk]

Take a bit more care in reading rather than just scanning the postings.

I have repeated the question again from #202

"Are your comments re Slave labour? Extermination, serious ones"That sounds like Nazi Germany, the very thing our ancestors gave their lives to protect us from.

I answered that.

 

[Garage_Doors]

Your problem is that you've read the Daily Mail for too long, you haven't a clue about benefits or the welfare system

I don't take any newspapers, however I don't see how that is relevant, what are you implying with that comment?

I am we'll versed in how the welfare system works and is distributed from personal experience,do you have any actual personal experiences?
Are you able to offer any valuable insights rather than just making statements like "you haven't a clue" without any input and just slagging off other people's views?

 

[Garage_Doors]

I answered that.

Then please accept my apology for missing it.
Can you point me to it please, what post number was it?

 

[Silk]

Then please accept my apology for missing it.
Can you point me to it please, what post number was it?

#204

So what is your answer to the problem?

 

[Ernest]

I don't take any newspapers, however I don't see how that is relevant, what are you implying with that comment?

I am we'll versed in how the welfare system works and is distributed from personal experience,do you have any actual personal experiences?
Are you able to offer any valuable insights rather than just making statements like "you haven't a clue" without any input and just slagging off other people's views?

I'm on benefits so I'm well versed with the benefit and welfare system and from your comments a lot more than you are

 

[Garage_Doors]

#204

So what is your answer to the problem?

Below is a complete transcript of your reply #204

There is no mention of your response to the question
"Are your comments re Slave labour? Extermination, serious ones"

You must be mistaken. What was your response?

I was wondering what your alternative to paying money to the unemployed was, since you seem to think they can live on thin air. Sounds like your answer is make them work for the money, which is exactly what is happening, so what exactly is your problem?

 

[Garage_Doors]

I'm on benefits so I'm well versed with the benefit and welfare system and from your comments a lot more than you are

As stated "those working the system" I can can only assume you are more honarable, but going by your sarky comment probably not.
Although on benefits you can still afford to eat and drink at the Clifftoville.
So not too shabby are they.

 

[Ernest]

As stated "those working the system" I can can only assume you are more honarable, but going by your sarky comment probably not.
Although on benefits you can still afford to eat and drink at the Clifftoville.
So not too shabby are they.

Again you show how little you know by jumping to conclusions , you have no idea what benefits I'm on

 

[Silk]

Below is a complete transcript of your reply #204

There is no mention of your response to the question
"Are your comments re Slave labour? Extermination, serious ones"

You must be mistaken. What was your response?

Either I must be mistaken, or you can't read. The answer was "I was wondering what your alternative to paying money to the unemployed was, since you seem to think they can live on thin air."

What is your solution to the problem?

 

[cunning fergus]

It isn't generous.

I think you will find it is............

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...only-repay-fifth-of-stolen-benefits-cash.html

 

[Creaky]

It isn't generous.

Maybe a somewhat more serious response can be found here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ain-outstrips-Europe-on-welfare-spending.html

When the total welfare spend accounts for almost a quarter of the GDP it is difficult to argue that isn't 'generous'!

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

Maybe a somewhat more serious response can be found here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ain-outstrips-Europe-on-welfare-spending.html

When the total welfare spend accounts for almost a quarter of the GDP it is difficult to argue that isn't 'generous'!

Approximately 50% of the DWP's annual benefit expenditure is accounted for by the state pension (if you include pension credit and winter fuel allowance, the figure is well over 50%).
The basic state pension is currently £113.10 pw, someone over 21yo earning the minimum wage would gross £252.40 for a 40 hour week

 

[MarioOrlandi]

I think our friend was implying about the loop holes in the system. Multiple benefit fraud is an obvious one where the recipient apparently lives in 2+ additional addresses en
One in Brighton, another in Worthing, Littlehampton etc
What I find really strange is that a family on benefits can find the money to afford the top end sky package! Unemployment Benefit and Income Support were intended to offer a basic living standard not a living wage. About a year or so ago the papers highlighted a family in Newcastle with 8 children who were being evicted from their home for not paying the rent, apparently they could not live on benefits totaling £500+ per week!!! Think this is what was meant by working the system

 

[Silk]

Maybe a somewhat more serious response can be found here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ain-outstrips-Europe-on-welfare-spending.html

When the total welfare spend accounts for almost a quarter of the GDP it is difficult to argue that isn't 'generous'!

Er..the total welfare spend would include pensions and all those benefits that are paid to working people. So all it means is that we have both high unemployment and a growing elderly population. That doesn't mean that the benefits paid to individual families are generous. So actually it's quite easy to argue that it isn't generous.