[Albion] Was it a red?

[sydney]

Yes a red but Tarkowski should also have had one. Ref very quick to book Albion players and manager, lenient with Everton. Scared of Dyche is my conclusion who behaved way worse than RDZ on the touchline.

RDZ got booked again ....?? ffs how many is that 5 ..?

 

[AZ Gull]

RDZ got booked again ....?? ffs how many is that 5 ..?

Last season he received four yellow cards and two reds. This season he has received four yellow cards.

 

[KZNSeagull]

MOTD Richards says red because it is dangerous (Lineker: "But football is dangerous"), Lineker says not a red, Wright completely confused but makes the point that Maguire's was more aggressive.

 

[Justice]

If you are a Liverpool/Manure/City player it’s a yellow.
Another Northern born ref booking the shite out of us again and letting Everton off with everything. Interesting reffing all afternoon. Apparently you can boot the ball into the crowd after an offside call and escape a booking by maintaining you didn’t see the flag or hear the whistle.

 

[Blue3]

No not a red, Gilmore won the ball the Everton player in falling lifts his leg which Gilmore connects with its a yellow studs were raised but not dangerously nor deliberate

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

MOTD Richards says red because it is dangerous (Lineker: "But football is dangerous"), Lineker says not a red, Wright completely confused but makes the point that Maguire's was more aggressive.

Football is dangerous? Weird comment .

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

No not a red, Gilmore won the ball the Everton player in falling lifts his leg which Gilmore connects with its a yellow studs were raised but not dangerously nor deliberate

Planting your studs into someone’s lower leg is dangerous.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I think Gilmour’s and Maguire’s are both right slap bang in the grey areas that football struggles to accept exist in the rules and the speed of play.

They are both subjective calls and slow-mo doesn’t help convey the context, intent and force.

I don’t have too many complaints as Gilmour’s foot is high, accidentally or not you have a responsibility to your opponent not to have any height or studs showing in your tackle / contact.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Planting your studs into someone’s lower leg is dangerous.

But planting your studs onto another player's foot isn't?

All we want is consistency. Either both yellow or both red.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I don't like the argument that we would be screaming for it.
In general I scream for every 50/50 so it's a fairly pointless argument.

In this case, I understand why it's been given, but totally agree with Dunk's opinion on this.
I understand it and don't understand it in equal measure.

it's a 50/50, he's touched the ball and followed through.
Where else is his foot supposed to go?

It's a real letter of the law decision.

 

[GrossTurn]

Planting your studs into someone’s lower leg is dangerous.

Agreed, whether or not he meant to do it - that outcome is the result of him going into the 50/50 in a somewhat wild fashion. A level of aggression is expected but he went a little too far, unfortunately.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Planting your studs into someone’s lower leg is dangerous.

"planting" Did Billy "plant" his studs into Onana's leg?
Or did he just hit his legs with his studs showing?

 

[Hometownglory]

I hope RDZ gives wee Billy another chance and doesn't give him the Dahoud treatment.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I hope RDZ gives wee Billy another chance and doesn't give him the Dahoud treatment.

That isn't going to happen.

Billy's only error was his heavy first touch, giving him no option than contest a 50/50, whilst we were chasing the game.
Dahoud's was an unnecessary aggressive challenge, when we were winning

 

[zefarelly]

A red is not incorrect IMO, and VAR didn't intervene, would have been interesting if ref gave a yellow to start with.

Maguire one looks as bad, if not worse.

Harrys do get different treatment . . . . Mags looked almost deliberate. . . WBG played the ball, not tha man

It's all interpretation and the bottom line is did the challenge endanger a player.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

I said "soft" when I saw it first time close enough to take a view on NS Concourse TV...

Side foot nature of challenge. Genuine attempt to win the ball using instrumental aggression - not a deliberate foul and not with desire to injure opponent.

Would quite often only get a yellow and not be upgraded to red by VAR.

 

[Perfidious Albion]

By the rules, yes... but we have seen many worse get a yellow card . Harsh decision by inconsistent ref.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Happens all the time and usually a yellow is given.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I said "soft" when I saw it first time close enough to take a view on NS Concourse TV...

Side foot nature of challenge. Genuine attempt to win the ball using instrumental aggression - not a deliberate foul and not with desire to injure opponent.

Would quite often only get a yellow and not be upgraded to red by VAR.

This!

Plenty of those go unpunished by the ref, giving a yellow and leaving it up to VAR.
And then the pundits would have been divided about whether Yellow was the right decision or not.

Compare that to last week's ref giving a yellow, for the assault on Mitoma, it is a bit laughable.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

"planting" Did Billy "plant" his studs into Onana's leg?
Or did he just hit his legs with his studs showing?

Plant, hit…..it was dangerous to do what Gilmour did and therefore it’s a red. Thats all there is to it