War in Middle East - part XXVVVII

[Dave the OAP]

I fail to see how showing how "gifted" the Jewish population is justifies anything.

BTW you missed out the amount of Jewish people in the world's great orchestras, theater companies and entertainment in general.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I fail to see how showing how "gifted" the Jewish population is justifies anything.

BTW you missed out the amount of Jewish people in the world's great orchestras, theater companies and entertainment in general.

Agreed. Perhaps he was trying to coax us into supporting the Israelis as they are of more use to us?

As for 'not a single Jew that protests by killing people'? Are they not currently protesting against the treatment from their neighbours?

Ps The Israelis have been targetting Mosques. I guess it is not a Church, but still...

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

But YOU'VE bombed their schools AND killed dozens of children INSIDE said schools. Maybe if you stopped stealing their land they might lay down their arms The Israeli miltary are clear too stupid or too cowardly to use tactics that would allow less civilian deaths - it WOULD mean more Israeli soldiers deaths but that's got to be preferable to child deaths on anyones moral barometer ?

You sir are a cock of the highest order who is just spouting Israeli properganda

 

[Questions]

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000

ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population.

They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:

1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace:

1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewai




Economics: (zero)




Physics: (zero)

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

TOTAL: 7 SEVEN

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The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 FOURTEEN MILLION

Or about 0.02% of the world's population.

They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:

1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:

1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1! 994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin




Physics:

1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Bu! rton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charle S Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:

1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:

1908 ! - Eli e Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
198! 9 - H arold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis

TOTAL: ONE HUNDRED & TWENTY NINE !

The Jews are not promoting brain washing the children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!


The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is not a single Jew that has destroyed a church. There is not a single Jew that protests by killing people.

The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:


'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel' -Benjamin Netanyahu

But they are not Israeli are they ? There lies the problem. The Jewish influence in Washington makes it wrong. If the States had a couple of million Palastinians in the arts, business and the political arena things would be very different concerning their stance on the middle east.

 

[Steve Foster]

I fail to see how showing how "gifted" the Jewish population is justifies anything.

BTW you missed out the amount of Jewish people in the world's great orchestras, theater companies and entertainment in general.

...............Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:


'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel' -Benjamin Netanyahu

 

[Steve Foster]

But YOU'VE bombed their schools AND killed dozens of children INSIDE said schools. Maybe if you stopped stealing their land they might lay down their arms The Israeli miltary are clear too stupid or too cowardly to use tactics that would allow less civilian deaths - it WOULD mean more Israeli soldiers deaths but that's got to be preferable to child deaths on anyones moral barometer ?

You sir are a cock of the highest order who is just spouting Israeli properganda

You my Albion friend, clearly have never been to Israel & have little comprehension about the facts.

Originally Posted by Steve Foster
Please cut & paste the enclosed into your browser for the truth:

http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/mid...iddle_East.asp

 

[Steve Foster]

But they are not Israeli are they ? There lies the problem. The Jewish influence in Washington makes it wrong. If the States had a couple of million Palastinians in the arts, business and the political arena things would be very different concerning their stance on the middle east.

There are more Arabs in the States than Jews!

Furthermore, only a minority of the nobel peace winners are from the States

Thirdly, when have Jews EVER started a war??

 

[portslade seagull]

Israel was built by terrorists so i suppose it takes one to know one....

 

[Steve Foster]

Agreed. Perhaps he was trying to coax us into supporting the Israelis as they are of more use to us?

As for 'not a single Jew that protests by killing people'? Are they not currently protesting against the treatment from their neighbours?

Ps The Israelis have been targetting Mosques. I guess it is not a Church, but still...

No Mosques have been targetted.
Shame that some terrorists use mosques to fire ammo into Israel.
Would this ever happen from a church, temple or synagogue?.........I think not

 

[Dave the OAP]

Steve, at what end were the five goals scored by Brian wade against Sunderland scored?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

No Mosques have been targetted.
Shame that some terrorists use mosques to fire ammo into Israel.
Would this ever happen from a church, temple or synagogue?.........I think not

BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Remains of mosque hit in air strike

So we have you saying that they do not target civilians or mosques, yet they have hit a school and at least one mosque...

 

[Westdene Seagull]

There are more Arabs in the States than Jews!

Furthermore, only a minority of the nobel peace winners are from the States

Thirdly, when have Jews EVER started a war??

But we're talking about Palestinians and Israelis here - NOT Arabs and Jews.

I note you have still failed to comment on the ILLEGAL occupation of land since 1967 by the Israelis. You fail to recognise the right of Palestinians to move in and out of Gaza into other Arab countires. You fail to mention that Israel controls EVERYTHING that goes in and out of Gaza. You fail to mention the targeting of a UN school ( note a UN school NOT a Hamas run school ).

Currently the Israeli government and the Israelis are making me sick to the pit of my stomach - you accept NO responsibility for the current situation and are relying on the support of the USA ( the worlds bully ) and sympathies from the second world war. Until I see a more measured response I'll support the Palestinians and Hamas ( a perfectly legally elected Government ) and hope they give the Israeli troops a damn good hiding like Hezzbulh did in 2006.

 

[Steve Foster]

Brian Wade .........the original football genius

Steve, at what end were the five goals scored by Brian wade against Sunderland scored?

Granny, I am not quite yet a grandad, but I do remember Brian Wade's 4 goals against Newcastle at the Goldstone on his debut. Was only a wee young boy then.

Shame he was only a flash in the pan!

 

[Dave the OAP]

Granny, I am not quite yet a grandad, but I do remember Brian Wade's 4 goals against Newcastle at the Goldstone on his debut. Was only a wee young boy then.

Shame he was only a flash in the pan!

it was the south goal.

 

[Questions]

There are more Arabs in the States than Jews!

Furthermore, only a minority of the nobel peace winners are from the States

Thirdly, when have Jews EVER started a war??

Nah........ you`ve lost me on the war bit.......... they just bomb innocent people and call it WHAT exactly.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Nah........ you`ve lost me on the war bit.......... they just bomb innocent people and call it WHAT exactly.

Self dedence apparently - any reaonably minded person calls it murder !!!

 

[Dave the OAP]

Self dedence apparently - any reaonably minded person calls it murder !!!

would you agree that if Hammas stops firing off rockets that have no guidance system, therefore "could" land on a school in israel, then the Israelis would stop attacking gaza?

 

[Steve Foster]

But we're talking about Palestinians and Israelis here - NOT Arabs and Jews.

I note you have still failed to comment on the ILLEGAL occupation of land since 1967 by the Israelis.

Please cut & paste the enclosed into your browser for the truth:

http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/mid...iddle_East.asp

You fail to recognise the right of Palestinians to move in and out of Gaza into other Arab countires.

The Egyptians do not let the Palestinians into their country? - Why not?
Why don't you spout off about them? A country many many times bigger than Israel & like minded Arabs. But no you spout off again and again about Israel being the guilty party.

You fail to mention that Israel controls EVERYTHING that goes in and out of Gaza.

Wrong again. See above. There are more than one crossing into Gaza from two different countries. Israel allows humanitarian aid from their side but what is going in from the Arab side?

You fail to mention the targeting of a UN school ( note a UN school NOT a Hamas run school ).

Currently the Israeli government and the Israelis are making me sick to the pit of my stomach - you accept NO responsibility for the current situation and are relying on the support of the USA ( the worlds bully ) and sympathies from the second world war. Until I see a more measured response I'll support the Palestinians and Hamas ( a perfectly legally elected Government ) and hope they give the Israeli troops a damn good hiding like Hezzbulh did in 2006]

You are so lucky to live in England, have no understanding of the issues. The Palestinians cannot get on with each other. Fatah are generally the good guys who are in a civil war with Hamas.

Do you think the British will ever have peace with the taliban who only want to destroy?

Grow up

 

[Steve Foster]

would you agree that if Hammas stops firing off rockets that have no guidance system, therefore "could" land on a school in israel, then the Israelis would stop attacking gaza?

I assure you, that the day the terrorists stop firing rockets into Israel, the Israeli's will bring an end to the ordeal.

If not I will donate £100 to the charity of your choice

 

[Dave the OAP]

I assure you, that the day the terrorists stop firing rockets into Israel, the Israeli's will bring an end to the ordeal.

If not I will donate £100 to the charity of your choice

I wasnt aiming this at you, I think we have all worked out your views, I was aiming it at Westdean seagull whose arguments seem ever more incredible.