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[Albion] VAR v Southampton



Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
............and that is the main point - it should have taken ten seconds. OK, maybe thirty; if you can't make up your mind then, go with the on-field decision. Incidentally, didn't the linesman (sorry, but that's still what they are to me) flag it offside - in which case the on-field decision would surely have been offside, so just agree with it.

If it was a VAR call against us though, I'd be fuming!
Because there was doubt about contact by Van Hecke. It took a while to rule that out.
 






AZ Gull

@SeagullsAcademy @seagullsacademy.bsky.social
Oct 14, 2003
13,106
Chandler, AZ
Think they score if he's there or not. Quite happy about the decision and not sure it would always would go in our favor.
We have been extremely fortunate this season with the goal that United "scored" when they cut through us but the ball hit Zirkzee on the way into the net and this goal (not lucky in the sense that they were incorrect decisions but lucky in the sense that we deserved to concede a goal on each occasion).
 


jonny.rainbow

Well-known member
Oct 29, 2005
6,850
“If he’s not interfering with play, what’s he doing on the pitch?”

Brian Clough

BIN VAR

Bring in better referees from abroad.
 


Han Solo

Well-known member
May 25, 2024
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We have been extremely fortunate this season with the goal that United "scored" when they cut through us but the ball hit Zirkzee on the way into the net and this goal (not lucky in the sense that they were incorrect decisions but lucky in the sense that we deserved to concede a goal on each occasion).
Yup.. luck is on our side this season. Hopefully stays that way!
 




Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,663
You’re absolutely right, and this is why it was given.

Yet dozens aren’t each week.

It’s like foul throws, you might see a couple a season given watching every Albion game, but in reality there’s a couple a match minimum the referee doesn’t give.

We got lucky tonight in that the application of the laws of the game were upheld (albeit on a judgement call).
Not sure I agree that laws being upheld went our way. Downes should have been off twice before he scored and once after it. Martin could not sub him quick enough. Everyone knew he should have gone. That was as poor as the Baleba decision last week. At least that looked bad at full speed.
 


pigmanovich

Good Old Sausage by the Sea
Mar 16, 2024
1,619
London
Not sure I agree that laws being upheld went our way. Downes should have been off twice before he scored and once after it. Martin could not sub him quick enough. Everyone knew he should have gone. That was as poor as the Baleba decision last week. At least that looked bad at full speed.
This! :rant: It’s a point gained the way the game actually played out but two points dropped if you believe as I do that Downes should have been sent off
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
26,001
“If he’s not interfering with play, what’s he doing on the pitch?”

Brian Clough

BIN VAR

Bring in better referees from abroad.
If those 'better referees' were brought in from abroad and started refereeing our teams week in, week out, they would be getting pelters before long. This is because the majority of referee analysis is done through a subjective prism.

The best way to assess refereeing standards is by appointment. England provided two referees for the Euro Quarter Finals, and refereed the 2023 Europa League Final and the 2016 Champions League Final, Euro 2016 final and the 2010 World Cup Final

Nation with the most international listed FIFA referees in history: England
 






Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,787
GOSBTS
Divs behind me said ‘I’d rather give Southampton the goal than it take this long’

🤦🏻‍♂️
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,277
Faversham
First they checked the goalscorer’s position, he was just onside - very close. Then they checked Armstrong’s position - the guy on the near post - and he was a yard or two offside. They then had to decide whether his movement (a flick of his leg behind him) constituted an attempt to interfere with play while offside.

They concluded it did, and gave offside.
You saw all that from behind the goal at the Dell?

Astonishing.

Hope you're home now. The Chichester bypass can be a bugger at midnight.
 




ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,359
(North) Portslade
So what was the on field decision?

I think the ref and lino after a very long discussion ruled offside, hence the ridiculously late flag. However some of my mates are convinced the flag was linked to the input of the VAR.
 




basque seagull

Active member
Oct 21, 2012
380
I simply don't understand how Armstrong wasn't impacting on the play. He was active and therefore offside. Obvious at the ground, obvious on the first replay - it should have taken them 10 seconds.
That inactive player nonsense needs to be scrapped, seems to be used as a wild card to favour the big teams.
 




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