[Football] UK Rappers at Lancing

[Bakero]

Well, that’s what I would like to know. Why are they doing this?

Plenty of videos on the subject that you could watch if you really wanted to know, but I don’t think you do, because you don’t believe it. Fair enough.

Who are they?

You're right, I don't really fancy watching conspiracy theory videos. I'd appreciate a quick summary though. Could you give us an idea of why it might be a desired goal? Who stands to benefit?

 

[Bakero]

Yay bro!

PS I think toss pot was slang for wanker back in the day

Well, that's rather rude.

 

[BeHereNow]

I’m not sure laughing at the absolute bollocks you’ve posted counts as angry, but I’m happy to let you claim that if it makes you feel better.

1) They play nearly as much Indie Rock as they do U.K rap.

2) My point still stands, it doesn’t exist. I actually did you a favour and checked the track list for the last 10 Now albums. The most U.K. Hip-Hop songs any of them had was 5 songs on a 45 track collaboration. Again, it’s a weird lie to make up.

3) A lot of songs 5 years ago might have, but the ‘add a rap verse to a pop song’ trend died out ages ago. In the last few years British pop music has produced Lewis Capaldi, Dua Lipa, Anne Marie, Sam Fender, Dermot Kennedy etc etc. I can’t think of a single one of them doing a song with a rapper in. Again, you’ve made this point up.

4) The great thing about R1 is the fact that they put track lists up for all of their shows. So I’ve taken the liberty of going back a couple of weeks (Covid-19 has changed their programming and I didn’t want that to paint an unfair picture) and picking just 1 of their daily shows so we can check how many white bands are on there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000gvvl

I see 14 white bands on that list, and that isn’t including Daft Punk as they’re robots, or EUROPA & The Chainsmokers who are both (white) DJ duos. In contrast there aren’t many British rappers on there at all. Funny that. It’s almost like they play the new releases & what’s in the charts rather than trying to manipulate the population in to listening to evil black music.

5) BBC is so London centric that they play all of that London rap music like Aitch, Jaykay & Slowthai who are 3 of their most played British rappers and who are from the London boroughs of Manchester, Birmingham & Northampton respectively.

6) I didn’t say you did ask why Gang Warfare is being pushed, I asked about Gang Culture. Which you did say. In fact your exact words were “It doesn’t take a genius to see why current rap music and it’s gang culture is being pushed...”

So I will continue to ask for proof that Gang Culture is being pushed. And I will again if it’s being pushed then why have the Met taken down hundreds of videos mentioning gang culture, banned people from releasing music or performing shows & why it’s banned from radio stations across the country?

I won’t hold my breath waiting for a sensible answer.

In my experience Radio 1 has been absolute crap for years. When I looked at their A List, B List and C List a couple of months ago it was mainly black artists, so it seemed to me like they didn’t want to play white music, this seemed strange and frustrating. I’ll give it a listen on Monday.

I’m pretty sure it was a Now CD, 2nd disk, probably within the last couple of years. Maybe my sister told me it was but it wasn’t, or maybe we are talking about different definitions of the music, a lot of it was American aswell. If you could find the last couple of year’s track listing, that would be great.

I’m glad the pop songs have ditched the rapping parts, thanks for letting me know. There are a couple of good ones out there every now and again.

Right, so that rap stuff is the kind of music that sells in London, no matter what city the artist is from.

I’m glad the gang culture is being is being cracked down upon now, perhaps I should’ve said the culture in general, not gang culture. Like I said before, it’s one thing to listen to it if you want to (that’s fine) but to start talking and acting like them is very strange and sad.

 

[daveinplzen]

I love the idea of a father saying he will not let his children listen to a certain kind of music, as thats worked so well in the past

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I'm guessing you are around 60 years old give or take ( a guess from other posts over the years ).
I'm curious, what is the attraction of modern UK rap for someone of your age?

The lyrics.
UK rap has been in the background for years, but seems that certain artists have raised its profile over the last few years, because they are rapping about more serious social matters.
Ive mainly listened to reggae and soul over the years, and it has overlapped a bit of late, but mainly because of the content.

Not just the lyrics, the tunes, the beats, the melodies.

That example that you have given, BN9, does not prove the rule. It's like putting the lyrics of 'Now I wanna sniff some glue' by The Ramones up to prove that all punk lyrics are crap.

I am of a similar vintage and love loads of UK Rap music that has been released in the last few years. Dave, Kano, Loyle Carner, Kojey Radical, Little Simz, 2nd Exit...and many others. You could argue that Kate Tempest should be in there too. All move me, all have produced some fantastic music. A lot of jazz and soul crossovers going on, with some fantastic collaborations.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

The old ‘let’s destroy our culture and heritage for a bit of good food’ argument.

So, a white man and a white woman being together isn’t modern? Why would they think diverse is better? Why do they need to show they are diverse?

Isn’t the black population something like 13%? It seems strange that the adverts massively over represent them.

who's making these adverts?
Regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Angry much? Can’t handle the truth?

1. Radio 1 barely plays what they call ‘Indie Rock’. Yes, there is a lot of dance crap and pop which also happen to have rap in them.

2. I said a CD, not the whole album, they normally have 3 CD’s.

3. Again, a lot of pop these days has a rap in there somewhere, songs that would’ve been good without it.

4. Yes, you’re right there, the point still stands about how ‘diverse’ the station is though. Think they had about 3 white bands on there the last time I checked.

5. Radio 1 is too London centric and we know that London isn’t exactly British these days. I love how the DJ’s on there, who would’ve loved a track from say The Killers or Kings of Leon a few years ago act as if they are excited about a song by Stomzy

6. I’m not saying gang warfare is being pushed.

Of course , you're right about Radio 1 , commercial
Shite has an audience to be conditioned
Regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

mate, that c*nt believes in the Great Replacement theory, ofcourse he thinks there is a conspiracy. Likes to link to far right YT channels on here too. Not worth it.

Put the needle on the record and the drum beat goes like this zzzzzzzzzzz
Regards
DF

 

[rogersix]

who's making these adverts?
Regards
DF

just stumbled over this thread, your boys have had their arses absolutely handed to them, haven't they barren.

having to resort to making up stuff about irrelevances...

 

[Guinness Boy]

In my experience Radio 1 has been absolute crap for years. When I looked at their A List, B List and C List a couple of months ago it was mainly black artists, so it seemed to me like they didn’t want to play white music, this seemed strange and frustrating. I’ll give it a listen on Monday.

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More "special" stuff.

If Radio 1 has been crap for years "in your experience" then presumably you were still listening to it? So not really that bad eh?

Or did you swerve it for years and then literally go onto the "lefty BBC" on the internet, make a list of all the songs on their play list and then check the skin colour of the artist on every single entry?

Just wow, either way...

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

just stumbled over this thread, your boys have had their arses absolutely handed to them, haven't they barren.

having to resort to making up stuff about irrelevances...

roger and out
Regards
DG

 

[rogersix]

roger and out
Regards
DG

so who is the "they", the ones that are making these adverts that are subverting our chidren's minds barren?

 

[Bakero]

1. In my experience Radio 1 has been absolute crap for years. When I looked at their A List, B List and C List a couple of months ago it was mainly black artists, so it seemed to me like they didn’t want to play white music, this seemed strange and frustrating. I’ll give it a listen on Monday.

2. I’m glad the pop songs have ditched the rapping parts, thanks for letting me know. There are a couple of good ones out there every now and again.

3. Right, so that rap stuff is the kind of music that sells in London, no matter what city the artist is from.

4. I’m glad the gang culture is being is being cracked down upon now, perhaps I should’ve said the culture in general, not gang culture. Like I said before, it’s one thing to listen to it if you want to (that’s fine) but to start talking and acting like them is very strange and sad.

1. Radio 1, in my experience, plays lowest common denominator music. People seem to like it but people are generally quite simple. Being the radio, it's quite hard to know the race of the artists. Not sure why you'd need to. Why would you find a lack of white artists frustrating?

2. They'll add a rap verse if they think it'll boost sales. Who cares? You're 29- why do you want to listen to commercial pop anyway?

3. This rap stuff? Are you sure you're 29?

4. Nobody is pushing a particular culture with any agenda other than the standard drive to make money.

5. When is lockdown over?

 

[BeHereNow]

I love a good conspiracy theory... who is 'they'

The British went around the world 'conquering' people, those people became part off the British empire. The British invited the Windrush generation to the UK to do the work that British people didnt want to do. Most of the things you are alluding to, are a product of British actions... are the British 'they' ?

Also, I would love to see some of these videos you speak of, and verify their politics. and who their target audience is.

Yes, I think a lot of them are British.

 

[daveinplzen]

Yes, I think of them are British.

Go on

 

[BeHereNow]

More "special" stuff.

If Radio 1 has been crap for years "in your experience" then presumably you were still listening to it? So not really that bad eh?

Or did you swerve it for years and then literally go onto the "lefty BBC" on the internet, make a list of all the songs on their play list and then check the skin colour of the artist on every single entry?

Just wow, either way...

I already said I have to listen to when I’m in my sister’s car.

So, no, it’s not just wow, is it?

 

[BeHereNow]

just stumbled over this thread, your boys have had their arses absolutely handed to them, haven't they barren.

having to resort to making up stuff about irrelevances...

I don’t see how anyone’s made anything up.

 

[BN9 BHA]

That example that you have given, BN9, does not prove the rule. It's like putting the lyrics of 'Now I wanna sniff some glue' by The Ramones up to prove that all punk lyrics are crap.
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As posted already I have looked at the lyrics of some of the artists mentioned in your OP, maybe this one is a bit extreme, but I honestly have not one clue what any of this means.

I did come back to mention those lyrics again ( as quote above )
I do understand your point.

 

[Whitechapel]

In my experience Radio 1 has been absolute crap for years. When I looked at their A List, B List and C List a couple of months ago it was mainly black artists, so it seemed to me like they didn’t want to play white music, this seemed strange and frustrating. I’ll give it a listen on Monday.

I’m pretty sure it was a Now CD, 2nd disk, probably within the last couple of years. Maybe my sister told me it was but it wasn’t, or maybe we are talking about different definitions of the music, a lot of it was American aswell. If you could find the last couple of year’s track listing, that would be great.

I’m glad the pop songs have ditched the rapping parts, thanks for letting me know. There are a couple of good ones out there every now and again.

Right, so that rap stuff is the kind of music that sells in London, no matter what city the artist is from.

I’m glad the gang culture is being is being cracked down upon now, perhaps I should’ve said the culture in general, not gang culture. Like I said before, it’s one thing to listen to it if you want to (that’s fine) but to start talking and acting like them is very strange and sad.

I mean you can check the playlist right now for yourself if you like. Maybe doing the most basic level of research before spouting shit means you won’t need to back-pedal quite as much as you are. It’s right here. If you really, really stretch the definition of Hip-Hop to mean “there’s a black guy in it” then there’s 9 songs there. Realistically there’s 6.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3tqPdBWF9yMbTrfjWvfKV8t/radio-1-playlist


If you’re so desperate to prove that there’s a Now album with a CD that is exclusively Hip-Hop/Grime then feel free to waste your own time searching for it, that way you can keep moving the goalposts to suit you too! It doesn’t exist though.

I think Rap sells everywhere, that’s why rappers go on U.K. tours. Although of course in your weird view of the world that means it’s actually popular in London and then everyone else is brainwashed to like it... or something.

The problem is they aren’t tackling gang culture, they’re tackling music made by people who might not even still be in gangs. In fact they’re closing down a way for young men in improvised areas to make an honest living which could push them back in to gangs. Ah but at least the backtracking continues as what you were happy to call ‘gang warfare’ earlier today is now actually ‘culture’. I haven’t seen someone fail at backtracking this badly since Sidwell scored from 50 yards.

 

[jonnyrovers]

Must admit I don’t really consider rap as music . I feel it is just for people that can talk fast but can’t hold a melody for a song . I also find often although not always rap seems to sound aggressive, with derogatory words about women and various swear words and other offensive words like the N word.

Not for me , I’d never let my kids listen to this sort of noise .

Your kids' taste in music will be based largely on a total rejection of everything you allow them to listen to