nicko31
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Half a million infected, 20,000 dead and he's still the victim. Good to see BBC's John Sopel get in a few pointed questions
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Half a million infected, 20,000 dead and he's still the victim. Good to see BBC's John Sopel get in a few pointed questions
Icy Gull
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Yep and he’s likely to be getting a second term....
Not according to the bookies. Just better than evens with only a presumptive Democrat candidate. 10% points behind in the polls too. Had a look on Paddy to get the odds and found these:
Raleigh Chopper
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That's like asking George Cornell to be nice to the Krays.
John Oliver did a feature on Trumpletons latest news 'squeeze' - One, America's News Network.
Fair play to them they've realised if you blow smoke up Donny's arse you get media access far far beyond your remit.
Oh and they make Fox News look like David Lloyd George having a fireside chat with David Steel.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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He got a tad confused with the difference between January and February......https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-52275939/coronavirus-reporter-grills-trump-on-pandemic-response
nicko31
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One for Donny T's greatest hits Album...
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Could be a double or triple CD at this rate.
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Don't know where you're looking but Trump is currently odds-on with just about every bookie - and the odds are shortening too.
Paddy has him at 6-5 on
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2020/winner/bet-history_95
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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The election is some way off yet, if he does not get the virus under control and yet somehow get business going again and millions back in to work he may not be a shoe in.
10,000+ people have died in the UK and Johnson's ratings have never been higher. I read somewhere that the best thing that can happen to boost a PM or a President is a crisis, and it doesn't matter how well/badly it's handled.
The way partisan politics works now, you're either with Trump or against Trump and if you were with him before COVID-19, you'll be with him after and more so.
I said I got the odds from Paddy and as a gambling man 6-5 is pretty close to evens in my eye. Biden is 13/10 a bit further away from evens. Close call but remember bookies odds are based upon money staked. Fool’s gold.
Not if you’re dead.
vegster
Sanity Clause
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Johnson has had the advantage of being out of the limelight and not having to deliver a daily Death Count or face the flak over government failures and mistakes, Hancock and Raab have been the faces of bad news, plus Johnson's unusual humility after his illness has endeared him to many who may have forgotten his previous indiscretions, evasion and lies.
highflyer
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During a crisis yes. We pull together and we support whoever is in charge.
I've personally refrained from politcal sniping over the last few weeks, and wish a few others, on both sides, could do the same.
After it is over though...there will be a reckoning. And a lot more information will emerge (especially about which groups took the brunt and why). I am pretty sure it isn't going to play well for Trump or for the Conservatives.
How they handle the economic crisis will probably be more important than how they handle the health crisis. So far the conservatives are making many of the right noises. Time will tell, but they seem to be a long way ahead of Trump in terms of understanding the sh*t they are in and what they will have to do to survive as a government.
The bottom line is Biden just doesn't have 'it'.
Not to mention having his own baggage which will stop him fighting dirty.
But obviously not stop Trump.
Obama would have eaten him for breakfast.
As would Clinton and in a different world, Bush snr.
Anything less than 2,000,000 American deaths and Trump has an out.
In fairness more than 2m and Trump will use the Governor's as an out.
Biden just isn't the man, neither was Bernie and everyone else seems (from the outside looking in) very meh.
I have no idea how America got themselves in this shite, but I'll hazard a guess it's similar to how we've ended up with Patel and Gove 4th and 5th in line behind Johnson.
Not to mention having his own baggage which will stop him fighting dirty.
But obviously not stop Trump.
Obama would have eaten him for breakfast.
As would Clinton and in a different world, Bush snr.
Anything less than 2,000,000 American deaths and Trump has an out.
In fairness more than 2m and Trump will use the Governor's as an out.
Biden just isn't the man, neither was Bernie and everyone else seems (from the outside looking in) very meh.
I have no idea how America got themselves in this shite, but I'll hazard a guess it's similar to how we've ended up with Patel and Gove 4th and 5th in line behind Johnson.
Weststander
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I missed it.
But to start with a video collage of selective media snippets, was incredibly defensive and childish from the Leader of the Free World.
Weststander
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You can tell that he and his rabid supporters are already cooking up lies, intimating that the governors and mayors of covid19 hot spots caused the high death count.
That pile of bulls*it will grow as they head towards the presidential poll.